1911 vs glock (or xd)

If you can't carry an XD .45 c without printing, you need a new gameplan.

Did you have the commander looked at to see if it needed to be throated?

I was at the range tonight , I took my S&W mod 19-5 ( 357mag) my Super BlackHawk (44mag) , my Braco 380, and my S&W 1911 (45ACP) a friend and his wife brought a XD 45 full size , a XD 40 and Bersa 380. , winner for the night was my S&W 1911 , shooting 200gr cast SWC , after they left I shot a 3" group at 30' , OH that was a 25 round group, the funny thing was the first 5 rounds were 3" and the other 20 rounds stayed right in there ,


so I vote 1911 , and there is a Glock 17 in my safe , and it has spent most of the last 13 years there ,

I would just trade the Commander in for a Glock 19 or Glock 17. The Glock is reliable and it will take a beating without being nearly as fussy as any 1911 style pistol.

Glock. Just got rid of one of my 1911s (springer micro) to fund a gen 3 glock 36. Single stack .45. Awesome. Xds is a great option too, just like the Glock a little better

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I like 1911s when they're built right, but with everybody and their brother making a clone they aren't always built right. When built correctly a 1911 is as tough and reliable as any pistol made. Wilson's are nice, but there are other excellent options in that price range. There are even some great options at lower price points. If you go back to a 1911 do plenty of 1911 specific research, and be ready to pay to play. We could fill up an entire thread on this topic alone, so I'll stop here.

If you want to skip all the research and debate, then just get a Glock, XD, or S&W M&P in .45 ACP; or a SIG P220.

I'm not a big Glock fan for personal reasons, but they tend to work really well, the price is reasonable, and there's huge aftermarket support for them.

I like the XD pistols a little better than the M&P pistols; but S&W offers a pretty substantial discount to LE, active & retired military, and disabled veterans through their LE distributors, so I own M&Ps. I like all the options such as interchangeable back straps, thumb safety or no thumb safety, and magazine disconnect or no disconnect S&W offers on the M&P series. You can really get what you want feature wise with an M&P. The M&P pistols are the only line that even approaches Glocks, SIGs, and 1911s in aftermarket support. If they made the M&P Shield in .45 ACP I'd be all over one.

The classic metal frame SIGs are just great pistols. They're reliable, durable, and tend to be very accurate. They have great acceptance in military and LE use, so holsters and aftermarket support are superb. I prefer their DAK and DAO models, but most folks like the standard DA/SA better. Their frame mounted de-cocker on the DA/SA models is the best execution of such a feature on the market in my opinion. If you're willing to spend 1911 money and carry a metal frame pistol I wouldn't overlook SIG.

After some early design revisions the Ruger SR series pistols have also been excellent. I don't care for their huge loaded chamber indicator, but I'm a big fan of the low profile frame mounted safety, and very slim overall profile of the SR series. Holster selection and aftermarket support aren't as good for the SR series as for XD and M&P pistols, but there are still good options available. Ruger added a .45 ACP model to the SR series this year, so I'd keep an eye on reviews as those get out and folks get some rounds through them.

You have plenty of very good options, so take your time and find what works best for you.

There are a lot of reliable production 1911s to choose from, currently, Colt is at the height of their game and Springfield Armory is in there too. I like my Colt XSE and wouldn't mind having a SA MC Operator.

http://www.10-8performance.com/pages/Choosing-a-1911-for-Duty-Use.html

My main 1911 carry these days is in 38 Super.

As a general rule the poly framed striker fired guns are going to be easier to maintain than a 1911. I say that as someone who owns and really likes 1911s. As between which of those poly framed striker guns there are a whole bunch of really good choices, choices that go well beyond Glock and the XD. The good news is that you really can't go wrong with most of them. The bad news is that means there are a lot more guns worth looking at. While some people will insist this make or that make or a particular model is per se better than they others, I think they are up in the night. Much of it comes down to tastes and preferences although there are some comparable constants between them.

Try to check out Glock, XD, M&P, Walther, etc and see what strikes you. Then learn to use that gun well. One you may want to give a hard look is a Steyr. It is very similar to a glock in a lot of ways. However, I cannot tell you how many avowed glock haters, have shot mine and come away really liking it. Some have even gone out and bought one. I describe it in various ways, but one description I sometimes use is, a glock for people who hate glocks. I don't allege it is per se better than glock or an M&P, etc. But I do like mine a lot and as of now choose to carry it instead of the glock it replaced, or any of my 1911s, or various other guns (which includes several other viable carry guns from most of the major manufactures).

You could probably go with any of the guns you are talking about and be happy. Its more a matter of learning to shoot and run the gun well.

Polymer pistols in 45 tend to be very thick. The new XDs is an exception.

Like others have said, a well built 1911 can be reliable. I usually recommend to someone that purchases one to shoot it hard with all the different ammo that they plan on using. If it doesn't run then send it to a competent 1911 gunsmith for a reliability package. Competent is the key word.

I carried a full-size 1911 on-duty and off for more years than I can remember. Switched to the XD45c because I wanted a gun with a rail. Now I have the 1911 and three XD pistols (and a j-frame, BHP, GP-100, etc).

If you can't carry the XD45c concealed, it's your choice of holster-belt combination and manner of dress more than the gun. Especially with the flush magazine.

If you can't carry the XD45c concealed, it's your choice of holster-belt combination and manner of dress more than the gun.

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I'm gonna agree with this. While I don't own one its a small enough gun it shouldn't be a problem.

What's your body type OP? What position where you trying to carry it? IWB or OWB? Type of holster?

The 1911 is a time tested and proved design IMO, there are plenty of reliable "plastic " pistols to choose from, what feels best to you would be my advice. For ME that is a 1911 , it feels like it's a part of me, and the trigger is so much better even on a lower $ 1911 TO ME . I hate to say this as it's beaten to death, but it's the Ford Chevy thing, (IMO) what I prefer in a 1911 you and many others will prefer in a Glock or M&P etc.

I like my two M1911a1 pistols just fine. I use them in competition shooting matches. But for CCW I use my G17. 17 rounds of reassurance.

Well, XDs and G36 would be up your alley if you want a single-stack .45, at least in terms of size. Probably better than most 1911s.

Personally, I think the 9 is fine. Overall there's not going to be much difference. But if you want .45, I ain't gonna argue, just state my opinion is all.

I can't speak for the durability of the 1911, but most "Glock vs. 1911" threads turn into questions of manual safety vs. passive safety. The manual safety provides some extra protection (if something goes into the trigger guard with safety on, it won't depress the trigger), but it also can provide a false sense of security ("it's on safe don't worr-" BANG). Personally I want a simple gun, so I'd go for the Glock or XDs if I were in your situation.

If you have a problem with a double-stack printing, try going up a shirt size, i.e. if you wear a large, go XL. Alternatively, if legal in your area, you can consider open carry.

I love my 2007 XD9 4", but I cannot carry it without printing.

But i have oddly shaped oversized love handles and no matter what they pushed the gun handle outwards, printing. Tge 1911 it did as well but not enough to print.

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Are you trying at 3 o clock? You can use the "handles" to your advantage by going behind them @ 4-5 o clock...

If I am not pocket carrying my 731 UL 32 H&R 6 shooter. It is at 2-2:30 IWB. Makes for a quick grab, and doesn't bind when driving or sitting being a small J frame. Something to think about.

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Right now im thinking on a wilson combat. But that's a steep price. However, once a gun is owned. The price doesnt effect how well it will save your life.

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I would suggest that you take a serious look at a Dan Wesson V-Bob if you want to carry a 1911 and not pay $3,500 for the privilege. I have a couple of Dan Wessons and they have proven to be extremely reliable regardless of the type of ammunition. I've shot a bunch of 185gr and 230gr Golden Saber JHP with no issues at all. If you decide to go the DW route, I would recommend that you contact Dave Severns and order from him since he'll make sure that everything is as it should be.

https://severnscustom.com/

If you like the grip angle of the 1911 get an XD. If you like the Glock grip get that. O carry a fullsoze G17 in a supertuck and it doesn't print.

Or perhaps one of the Kahr 45s
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I carry a CCO sized 1911 made by SIG, it feeds everything. Just to be on the safe side I use Cor-bon PowRball ammunition, this will cycle even in my most finicky 1911. Sometimes it's the magazine, or the feed ramp, or the barrel throat, or just ammunition issues. If I had a favorite 1911 that would only feed Ball ammunition, I would be OK with that. 230gr ball ammunition is very effective, but may tend to over penetrate. Federal has expanding full metal jacket ammunition that also feeds well in all my 1911s.