Don't send messages to your legislators,

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...send messages to all the gun, ammo, magazine and NSSF (National Sports Shooting Foundation) members (the guys who put on the SHOT show. Tell them not to sell their products to government entities in states that violate people's civil rights. If enough of them get together and do that, it will have more impact than messaging leftist legislators.

The NRA and the NSSF needs to stand together on this issue.
 
dont fool yourself. new york city can complete turn its back on Glock and Glock will still sell to yonkers and albany p.d. gun companies are in it for the money, if your rights survive thats cute but meaningless to them. look at all the Glocks in new jersey cop's hands, new york city, et cetera.
 
It's simply not feasible to expect most gun manufacturers to refuse to sell to LE which i don't believe they really do in the first place. I think they in fact sell to distributors who then sell to departments. The big gun makers already sale to any country they can regardless of how draconian the gun laws are. I suppose if civilian sales in a state rivaled or exceeded LE sales a gun maker might be willing to get on board for financial incentive but that's highly unlikely. Maybe if citizens of all the other states agreed to boycot any maker who sales to a anti-gun state they could influence them but we all know that ain't gona happen.
 
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Then they shouldn't sell to distributors in that state.
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Glock is based in Austria, national laws like Chicago. They sell guns to the British government... You think they're concerned about a new law in CO, or NY???
 
Glock is based in Austria, national laws like Chicago. They sell guns to the British government... You think they're concerned about a new law in CO, or NY???
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Yes I do.

Any State that passes laws that ban the sale of any of these gun companies products effects their bottom line. American civilians buy more guns then any other country. We buy more small arms then many of the worlds armies combined. So I would be truly amazed that any gun company that does business in the U.S.A is not concerned about laws being passed here.
 
It would be interesting to see just how many guns are purchases by governments in this Number of LE Glocks vs. number of privately owned Glocks. THAT would be our POTENTIAL political clout with with Glock.
 
Just received this message from Cheaper Then Dirt;


(Recently companies such as LaRue Tactical and Olympic Arms announced they will no longer sell prohibited items to government agencies and personnel in states denying civilians to own those same items. It has been and will continue to be Cheaper Than Dirt's policy not to sell prohibited items to government agencies and agents in states, counties, cities and municipalities that have enacted restrictive gun control laws against their citizens. We support and encourage other companies that share in this sentiment.)
 
So you want to hurt everyone in the state to punish some of those in the state? Did I get that right?
 
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So you want to hurt everyone in the state to punish some of those in the state? Did I get that right?
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Sometimes sacrifices must be made. If we can make it difficult for LE in New Yorkistan to get their gear it might make a big enough impression. Imagine if just 25% of officers refused to go on duty because they couldn't get proper equipment? (I know that's optimistic and unrealistic but we've got to do something, the law and the Constitution certainly aren't protecting us)
 
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So you want to hurt everyone in the state to punish some of those in the state? Did I get that right?
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I would say yes. The only way laws like this get passed is that people don't realize that elections have consequences. They keep electing the folks who espouse these laws, because they like their stance on this or that other issue. Only when enough of the given electorate realizes that their votes are actually having a negative effect on their daily lives, will they vote for another viewpoint.

If you look, you can just about determine with perfect accuracy what a given politician will vote on any given issue. You voted for him, live with it, or change the power structure!
 
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I am of the opinion the VERY VERY few legislators base their decisions on the volume of correspondence from constituents. I know if I held public office I sure wouldn't. I'd be open and straight forward during my election campaign and after that I do whatever I feel is best.
 
Shafter; if you don't listen to your constituents you will not be reelected, if for one minute you believe "O" was not a lame duck he would be doing what he is, you sir are sadly mistaken. He pulled the wool over the voters eyes in the first term. Even here on THR many said "look at his record he hasn't done any anti stuff" but as soon as the election was over, BEND OVER HERE I COME, the real Obama shows his head. He is a true progressive, and will have the US disarmed if he gets his way.
 
Remind ALL the Manf that their greatest profit is not from Gov't contracts (hell, Glock gives many PDs guns for free!), but from us - the honest, law abiding American citizens.

Remind them because it is true.
 
"So you want to hurt everyone in the state to punish some of those in the state? Did I get that right?"

What part of "Tell them not to sell their products to government entities in states that violate people's civil rights" don't you understand?

I also didn't mean to imply not contacting you legislators, I meant that perhaps the next step is to put pressure on the guns/ammo/magazine companies to not sell to government entities in ban states. That's like licking the hand that beats you.

BTW, the NSSF (National Sports Shooting Foundation) has a website feedback page. Please go to it and ask them to tell their members not to sell products to governmental entities in ban states. Remind them that if we consumers and their industry work together we can stop the attacks on our rights their industry.

Here's the link... http://www.nssf.org/industry/contactNSSF.cfm
 
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Idealistically it may sound like a good idea, but the departments will get their guns somehow, they always do. I don't think that Glock wants to get involved in our political system, nor should they.
They just sell to distributers who sell to gunstores who sell to us, so it's the disributers call, and not selling to the police in ones own state could cause consequenses for their business.
I wouldn't ask that of any person, they have relationships that their business is built on, and the way to go about this is through the political reps. it has been working so far, so why change it, we need to just keep up the preassure, not make business decisions for companys we don't own.
 
Sometimes sacrifices must be made.
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That is the argument of the anti gunner. Punish a few for the greater good.

It's a non starter with me, and should be with everyone here.

I have made personal sacrifices of time and money to speak out against laws that infringe my rights, and I have implored others to do the same. But I would not attempt to force someone.
 
I am hearing lots of rationalizations why this won't work. Dept's will get them anyway." "Why punish everyone for what a few do." "Not everyone will go along." "There are ways around it."

The same rationalizations were made during the civil rights movement of the 1960s. The fact is they are just excuses.

You want to continue to lick the hand that beats you or do you want to do something about it. Money talks, BS walks. Taking away the goods and services to the state governmental entities that take away civil rights is called collective action. Collective action is why the left controls this country and the right sits around and scratches their head wondering what is going on.

The book Paul Reveres Ride talks about what happened on April 19th 1775, the battles of Lexington and Concord. The author David Hacket Fischer says this.

"I think people on the left today ... tend to forget about American ideas of freedom. People on the right tend to forget about collective action. Paul Revere and his friends brought those two things together, and I think that's a message for us."
 
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