Anybody know where you can buy a civilian IR Laser Sight? I've searched the web and can find tons of references, but actually finding one to purchase to mount on an AR15 rail seems much harder that I ever imagined. Want to use it with my night vision scope. thanks.
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Double Naught Spy
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Did you try Crimsom Trace?
Just curious, what is your intended use? Self defense, varminting?
Just curious, what is your intended use? Self defense, varminting?
You're looking for the stuff produced by Laser Devices. Mod Armory advertises in the commercial section and Camille there can hook you up.
Ident Marking carries them http://identmarking.com/index.php/shop/lights-lasers-mounts-accessories
And TNVC http://tnvc.com/shop/category/long-gun-lasers/
And TNVC http://tnvc.com/shop/category/long-gun-lasers/
Hey Double Naught, I plan to use it on yotes and such. Hogs if I can get down south. I've put so much into my AR, that I might as well go the final step and get the IR Laser. I found several sites, but they were more advertisements. I'll look through these suggestions. Thanks
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The recently developed and approved civilian legal IR's lasers are lower powered than the police and military models, but are available from several makers. Laser Devices might be the most expensive, but some stuff is coming in from Russia and maybe some other imports that is less expensive. The only downside to an IR laser is any enemy combatants can target YOU very easily by your laser signature. I have played with one, and a passive sight like a Trijicon Reflex can be used with NVG's or monocular, and does not emit any signature. It operates passively, off a tritium element, as would an Aimpoint with NV compatibility.
Double Naught Spy
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OhioChief, you may not find the IR lasers to accomplish the task for which you want then.
I have used a Luna Optics and Dipol IR laser illuminators that are collimated and can focus down to a pinpoint like laser sights. They are also varialbe power and can be turned down quite low.
What I have found that happens, however, is that when the beam hits the fur of animals, it disperses and spreads amongst the fur. The result is that instead of having a paricular point illuminated, you end up with a baseball or larger bright glowing spot that is overly bright and makes it hard to see the area around the the glowing area. The result is that it makes it hard to actually place your shot on a particular exterior spot of the animal. You know you are on the animal because of the immediate and glaring bloom of light in the fur, but not very precisely where you are aimed.
The bloom and glares because of the spread of the light amongst the hairs and the return of the laser from countless reflections amonst the hair back to the NV gear. I believe the terms for the reflected light are scintillation and chatoyance.
This has been my experience in trying out sighting on hogs and testing with hogs and well as deer and raccoons as surrogates (none shot, of course). I do not think, based on my experience, that you are likely to be able to make a properly precise shot, a humane shot, using an IR laser on furred game with NV gear.
With that said, I would be interested in hearing if you do find a successful option that works. If you buy an IR laser to test, make sure you can return it if it doesn't work as desired.
I have used a Luna Optics and Dipol IR laser illuminators that are collimated and can focus down to a pinpoint like laser sights. They are also varialbe power and can be turned down quite low.
What I have found that happens, however, is that when the beam hits the fur of animals, it disperses and spreads amongst the fur. The result is that instead of having a paricular point illuminated, you end up with a baseball or larger bright glowing spot that is overly bright and makes it hard to see the area around the the glowing area. The result is that it makes it hard to actually place your shot on a particular exterior spot of the animal. You know you are on the animal because of the immediate and glaring bloom of light in the fur, but not very precisely where you are aimed.
The bloom and glares because of the spread of the light amongst the hairs and the return of the laser from countless reflections amonst the hair back to the NV gear. I believe the terms for the reflected light are scintillation and chatoyance.
This has been my experience in trying out sighting on hogs and testing with hogs and well as deer and raccoons as surrogates (none shot, of course). I do not think, based on my experience, that you are likely to be able to make a properly precise shot, a humane shot, using an IR laser on furred game with NV gear.
With that said, I would be interested in hearing if you do find a successful option that works. If you buy an IR laser to test, make sure you can return it if it doesn't work as desired.
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Here is the low output model of what most units in the military use:
http://www.usnightvision.com/anpeq-15atpial.aspx
http://www.usnightvision.com/anpeq-15atpial.aspx
Double, thanks for sharing that. Makes perfect sense. I have a very high end NV scope, and it would probably be blinding. I will give this a lot of thought.
Sharps, I really was considering this for yote & hog hunts, but your comments are well taken! Had not considered that. I think about that with normal lasers, and therefore don't have them. Hmmm. good point.
Thank you all! Should I give this a "shot", I'll post some results. maybe even a pic if I can include an IR camera.
Sharps, I really was considering this for yote & hog hunts, but your comments are well taken! Had not considered that. I think about that with normal lasers, and therefore don't have them. Hmmm. good point.
Thank you all! Should I give this a "shot", I'll post some results. maybe even a pic if I can include an IR camera.
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