Utube of marlin talks lack of quality

Yep, that s too much hassle to deal with Remington's poor workmanship. Plus the hassle of dealing with Remington customer service.

That has been the news for quite a while now so dont fall into it or regret later.

I dealt with Remington customer service summer 2011. I will not own another Remington anything. My first rifle was a Remington, still have it 39 yrs later. My favorite hunting rifle is a Remington. Have had it for years. But I will not do business with a company who's customer service is that poor.

They were pretty bad, but I think they have them straightened out now for the most part. The Marlins I have seen come through the shop in the last two months have looked really good, perhaps even better than the last of the Marlin produced guns. I heard they shut down production of the lever guns at the end of last year to deal with QC, but that may just be internet rumors.

This is the website that tells what year a Marlin was produced. Any Marlins produced after December 2007 were under Remington.

http://oldguns.net/sn_php/marlinlookup.php

I used to work for a CCM owned company, never again! I don't miss the Remington 700s because my Savages, Winchester and Tikka bolt actions are better then the 700 ever was even in it's hay day, but I will miss the 336 there is simply nothing else that stacks up to what that once was.

I have compared my 1981 Marlin 336C to the new Remlins about a year ago, And IMO it is a total disgrace what they did to that once fine rifle. In all fairness I do not know what year that rifle was that I looked at. I hope they did something with there QC and CS to make the 336 a fine rifle again but I haven't heard anything other than internet Gossip.

Like wth a lot of guns (and other products too) . . . the older ones are better.

I bought my Remington rifles and shotguns years ago, before they were bought out. So, I havent been paying much attention to current quality till recently. I looked at several new production Remington and Marlin guns . . and was not impressed.

So you can pay more money for a new one of lesser quality, or (generally) pay less for an older one thats made better.

I passed up on brand new wood stocked Rem 700s on clearance for $399, would not touch them for half that price IMHO they are not worth scoping. But if I find a good 1980s 700 or 336 for that price I would have a hard time passing up on it.
I suspect Marlin and Remington will not survive long if they cannot improve their QC standards alot.

To be fair it was mostly the lever action rifles that had serious problems but there were problems with other rifles too. Still I bought 5 new Marlins in the time people say they were all junk and except for a badly designed trigger guard on my new 60 and firing pins that break on my 795 I haven't had the really bad problems others describe. It took forever to get my second trigger guard because they designed and built brand new ones (the design they came out with didn't work at all). But that 2009 60 has been the best one I've ever owned as far as accuracy goes. The 795 is pretty decent too and the XT is excellent. The only one I'm not real happy with is the 925. It's just not as accurate as it should be and I get light strikes sometimes.

I bought a 45-70 (1895GBL) last year and had to send it in for repairs due to improperly cut rifling. While no gun should need sent back new out of the box, I must be fair to say they were easy to work with, if perhaps a little slow (probably all the other Marlins getting sent back at them), and they not only solved my problem, but returned the rifle with the smoothest action I've ever felt and definitely sub-moa accuracy (when I, rarely, can do my part).

Look them over before buying is the best advice I can give, and make sure to bring a flashlight and check the bore for consistent rifling (if it looks right it probably is - mine was very noticeable after I spent 10 hours removing lead from it). It seems the new ones are coming out much better than the original run at the new factory.

Had issues with the 1895 SBL I ot summer 2011. Rather than send to Remington I sent to Grizzly Custom as I wanted it fixed. Lew did a great job. Lever actions after this experience will be used per Rem ownership or other manufacturers.

I've had my one and only experience with a Remlin 336 and am happy it found a new home. I won't even bother looking at them any longer. At least with a Rossi I know in advance I'll have to do a bit of work on it.

I was at Cabela's over in Sydney the other week and they had several Remlins on the rack. They still had their factory tags on them but they were in the used rack. I thought this was kind of odd so I looked at a couple of them and I was not impressed. The wood to metal fit wasn't very good and the finish rather than the nice bluing like on my older Marlins looks like it was Krylon applied by "Filthy Al's $100 car paintin' shop." The levers were zip-tied shut so I have no idea how that felt but judging by what I did see, I will not be buying a Remlin any time soon!

One good thing is that Marlin and Remington made good guns for a lot of years (before current ownership). So, at least you can find older guns and replacement parts.

What a shame.

I have a Marlin 925 bolt action .22, made by Remington. If you look down the iron sights, the forward blade sight is about 5 degrees too far to the left. Not sure if the barrel threading is the issue or if they placed the sight on the barrel incorrectly after barrel installation, but that is pretty shabby.

I use a scope so at least that flaw does not affect the bulk of my shooting.

The next issue is that it will not feed hollow-points. I cannot even close the bolt on a single fed 22 hollow-point, not feeding from the magazine.

Lastly, the magazine well is made out of plastic, and even though it is only a bench gun, it is broken/chipped. It still allows the magazine to feed, but again, a sign of shoddy craftsmanship.

The gun is decently accurate with almost any solid 40gr ammo, but ironically, Remington ammo groups about 3x the average group size of others, and Remington Thunderbolt opens up to about 3 and 4 inch groups at 50 yards with about a 1 in 10 misfire, whereas cheap federal champion shoots under an inch at the same distance and has never misfired once.

I was debating between a Remington 700 SPS tactical in .308 for my first longer range gun, but settled on a FN PBR instead. NO REGRETS WHATSOEVER.

Just my 1.3 cents (0.7 cents taken in taxes).

I have put as much into my 1894c 44mag as I have spent on it, it does fire now and feeds well but it has had extensive work done by lever experts here in Nevada. I mean it was a 2 year odyssey to get that thing to work right. It is great now and it is mine forever, but I could never sell it to anyone, it might jam, it is useless for defense because it might jam and I almost sold it but when the guy told me he was going to use it to hunt hogs, I declined the sale.

I got my 1895 in early 2006. It had most of the problems that this man experienced - two lands have chatter marks over the last few inches, weird discolorations on the bolt and inside of the receiver, nasty tooling marks in the receiver, etc. It works and it shoots, but I was kind of frightened when I first saw it.

This problem didn't just start when Remington took over. IIRC, this was right about the time that Winchester went under. I recall a Marlin rep at Sportsmans Warehouse explaining it to me like this: if you wanted a lever gun for under $1000 during that time period, it was Marlin or...well, Marlin. They stepped up to meet production and quality unfortunately began slipping.

When I heard the news that Remington bought them out, I wasn't happy. I don't recall a product ever becoming better because Remington took over. But there were problems before that happened, make no mistake.

And to the producer of the video: if they did indeed sabotage the tooling prior to the move, they did it at least as far back as 2006.

P.S. If anyone knows what the heck turned parts of the interior of my stainless receiver brown (it does not clean up with any solvent that I've tried), let me know. I figured it was scale from the heat treat.

Dave Rishar said:

I got my 1895 in early 2006. It had most of the problems that this man experienced - two lands have chatter marks over the last few inches, weird discolorations on the bolt and inside of the receiver, nasty tooling marks in the receiver, etc. It works and it shoots, but I was kind of frightened when I first saw it.

This problem didn't just start when Remington took over. IIRC, this was right about the time that Winchester went under. I recall a Marlin rep at Sportsmans Warehouse explaining it to me like this: if you wanted a lever gun for under $1000 during that time period, it was Marlin or...well, Marlin. They stepped up to meet production and quality unfortunately began slipping.

When I heard the news that Remington bought them out, I wasn't happy. I don't recall a product ever becoming better because Remington took over. But there were problems before that happened, make no mistake.

And to the producer of the video: if they did indeed sabotage the tooling prior to the move, they did it at least as far back as 2006.

P.S. If anyone knows what the heck turned parts of the interior of my stainless receiver brown (it does not clean up with any solvent that I've tried), let me know. I figured it was scale from the heat treat.

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Yep, I agree. I bought a .44 1894 a couple years or so before Remington purchased Marlin. The many wood to metal gaps were filled with putty. The magazine tube was so 'out of round' that cartridges would not feed through it. I replaced the tube and sold the rifle.

I do not recommend a Marlin to anyone ever total junk in my opinion

I recommend looking for Marlin New Haven Connecticut on the barrel.

Just make sure it was a decade or so before Remington bought Marlin. Quality of the New Haven guns went down hill significantly in the years prior to the sale.

which brings up my 1894c, it does not have an M or an R on the receiver serial number, it has a stamp New Haven CT on the barrel and next is the REM marking.