muzzle brake vs. buffer

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is the muzzle brake or the buffer more effective to reduce recoil? trying to get the wife retrained on the AR and she doesn't care for the recoil.
 
What recoil? :neener:

In my experience the muzzle break will have a greater effect on felt recoil in general, but the buffer has a not insignificant effect as well.

What's the setup you've got? (Barrel length, gas system length, current muzzle device, current buffer weight, A1 or Carbine buffer tube? overall weight?)

If your stock is adjustable, make sure it's adjusted to fit her when she's shooting. Correct her grip on the rifle and position as necessary - some positions are more sensitive to improper weapon hold than others. It's much easier (in my opinion) to learn to shoot prone before moving to positions with less support.

Just my two cents - but software is more important than hardware - if the software isn't ready to take the programming, try a different program ... Maybe a .22LR AR15 upper, or a dedicated .22LR AR15 style rifle like the Mossberg 715 or the AR22?
 
I don't know the answer to all your questions. it is a 16 in carbine. nothing special at all but seems to have twice the recoil that my Colt 6940 has. she shot my 6940 and then the other one and wanted to keep the 6940... lol that ain't happening.

maybe the pic will answer some of your questions. thanks

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The only thing a buffer adds is weight and, therefore, inertia. It passively absorbs recoil at the cost of adding additional weight to your rifle. A brake, on the other hand, actively reduces recoil by redirecting gasses and providing straight-line pull force to the muzzle. This also allows it to be fine-tuned to prevent twisting or other motions induced by the rifle's function. A brake will always be inherently superior to any passive recoil buffer.

A .223 rifle can sometimes have a slightly sharp recoil. That is something I have also noticed even with my Saiga .223 which is far from lightweight. It's not a heavy recoil, but it is sharp. That can be uncomfortable for some shooters. A brake will definitely help with this. Increasing the weight of the bullets used will also help.
 
ok thanks for your input! I think I will start with the brake based on what you guys say and maybe also a buffer if the brake won't do it for her. she loves to shoot the .22s but I don't want her to use it for home defense. we had a neighbor encounter a home intrusion a couple of weeks ago and I want her to have some firepower. I suppose in the heat of the moment if she had to use it she wouldn't feel the recoil anyway but I want her to be comfortable with it so she can be proficient. thanks again!
 
break will have by far the most impact. however, she may like the noise even less than she liked the recoil.
 
chances are she is perceiving muzzle blast as recoil or possibly the bolt traveling a few mm under her face and the twang of the spring. A short 16" barrel blasts out so much unburnt powder it is louder than most full length centerfire rifles. the .223 does not kick much at all and a muzzle brake is going to keep the rifle level for the next shot more than any recoil reduction. FYI, the AR design is going to have multiple recoil events in the span of a fraction of a second: Bullet in motion , expanding gasses, hammer reset and bolt/buffer/spring in the extension.
 
just got back from my AR guy. ended up putting a brake on it and even ordered a can while I was there... :) I was amazed at the difference it made. put the brake on it and fired a few rounds out of it. as far as I am concerned, it's recoil is like a .22 now. simply an amazing difference!

can will be delivered in about 4 weeks, then the 6 month waiting game really starts... lol

I appreciate the info from everyone! I can't see the wife complaining about it now!
 
Muzzle brake can greatly reduce recoil. A heavier buffer can smooth out recoil, but a heavy buffer will also effect your gas system. I have H or H2 buffers in all of my collipsable stocks. I prefer the tungsten powder filled buffers made by spikes.

I love a muzzle brake on my 3 gun AR, but not on my carbines. It really isn't needed for plinking or home defense and the noise is hard to deal with. I have a YHM brake on my SBR(pistol for now), but it will become a host for a YHM can some day. Shooting it is obnoxiously loud with a 10.5 barrel.
 
gotigers, are you saying the brake makes it louder? or are you just referring to the barrel length on yours?
 
A muzzle brake will almost certainly be much louder. I shoot with a long range precision club and it's painful when I get stuck with guys using muzzle brakes on both sides.
 
thanks. I did fire it today and didn't notice it being any louder, but I was wearing molded ear plugs. don't plan on shooting without the plugs anyway unless necessary.
 
both. the muzzle brake on my 3 gun AR is extremely loud. The brake on my 10.5 is obnoxiously loud.

lol, clear as mud.

also. Under the cover of the range, the brake sends the sound bouncing off the cover back into my face. I try not to shoot an AR with a brake under cover.

I never shoot without ear protection.
 
I was going to suggest buying a suppresser (totally jealous by the way) as it will both reduce recoil and muzzle blast. but you already did. congrats on getting your wife into shooting also!
 
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