84% of Brits Want UK Handgun Ban to End According to Poll

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84% of Brits want the UK Handgun ban to end according to an online Poll conducted by the Daily Telegraph. This will be a major kick in the pants to the Brady Bunch and to the anti-gunners here in the U.S..

Many assumed or thought that the Brits favored their anti-gun laws, or got used to them...I mean what other option did they have? But perhaps the tide is changing and maybe many are starting to see the light. Perhaps they are tired of being victims and tired of the nanny state that seems to be forced on them.

I found this comment very telling.

"Regarding the handgun ban repeal suggestion, one reader observed, “After all, why should only criminals be ‘allowed’ to possess guns and shoot unarmed, defenceless citizens and police officers?” "


This could be a turning point for the UK. According to the article, it seems that the anti-gunners can't use Britain as an shining example anymore.


http://www.examiner.com/article/bri...ys-newspaper-poll?CID=examiner_alerts_article
 
While I applaud the sentiment and have known at least one Brit who got to be an avid shooter (after me and a few other colleagues convinced him that guns weren't evil), do remember that this is a website poll.

About all this shows was that 84% of the votes cast were to repeal the ban. There's no guarantee that many of the votes weren't from outside Britain nor that the votes were unique. As a matter of fact as a web poll I'd say there's a STRONG possibility that one or both of those is true.

So yes, online polls are good - even if only to make sure that they don't show the anti's an opposite result - but I wouldn't put too much stock in them.
 
An overwhelming majority of British citizens want their country’s handgun ban repealed, according to the results of an on-line poll conducted by the Daily Telegraph, described Wednesday as the United Kingdom’s “most widely read broadsheet newspaper” by the Commentator.
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Sorry guys, but internet polls are beyond meaningless. They are in no way representative of a population and that a media outlet would make a story out of one demonstrates an amazing degree of ignorance and incompetence. I don't know much about The Examiner but it is mind boggling that they would post such an article. Going around and citing this poll as evidence of how Brits feel about gun control is not a good idea unless we want to be portrayed as completely ignorant about statistics.
 
JustinJ said:
Sorry guys, but internet polls are beyond meaningless. They are in no way representative of a population and that a media outlet would make a story out of one demonstrates an amazing degree of ignorance and incompetence. I don't know much about The Examiner but it is mind boggling that they would post such an article. Going around and citing this poll as evidence of how Brits feel about gun control is not a good idea unless we want to be portrayed as completely ignorant about statistics.
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I say it's fine.
Turn about is fair play.
I mean after all, 90% of Americans want more gun control right?
lol.....
 
SabbathWolf said:
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Originally Posted by JustinJ

Sorry guys, but internet polls are beyond meaningless. They are in no way representative of a population and that a media outlet would make a story out of one demonstrates an amazing degree of ignorance and incompetence. I don't know much about The Examiner but it is mind boggling that they would post such an article. Going around and citing this poll as evidence of how Brits feel about gun control is not a good idea unless we want to be portrayed as completely ignorant about statistics.

I say it's fine.
Turn about is fair play.
I mean after all, 90% of Americans want more gun control right?
lol.....
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Awe, you beat me to it! If Obama can tout online polls as fact then you had bet we can too.


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Like many European nations, the UK is controlled by a very select elite. They all went to the same schools, they all come from similar social circles and they all agree on things like gun control. There are a few exceptions but those folks rarely hold real power and if they do they must operate within the parameters established by their betters. Consequently there is no room for a pro-gun party to emerge there, except on the extreme fringe.
 
Saw that yesterday....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10071072/Telegraph-new-law-competition-vote-now.html
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"Telegraph new law competition: vote now", UK Telegraph, 24 May 2013.
Last week, as Westminster discussed Private Members Bills, we asked you to provide MPs with some inspiration. Under Commons rules, any MP can introduce a bill, but only a few are ever debated. The ballot to decide which members get time for such debates was held on Thursday. ... The readers of telegraph.co.uk/politics did not disappoint, and provided us with a raft of ideas. These are the six that caught our eye.
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Bills British readers of The Telegraph wanted to see introduced before the House of Commons by elected Members of Parliament included:
Repeal the ban on hand guns and re-open shooting clubs, proposed by Colliemum. They write: "After all, why should only criminals be 'allowed' to possess guns and shoot unarmed, defenceless citizens and police officers?"
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Total Votes: 11,969
o Term limit on Prime Ministers 2.28% (273 votes)
o A flat tax 8.64% (1,034 votes)
o Greening of public spaces 2.59% (310 votes)
o Close child maintenance loophole 0.96% (115 votes)
o Ban spitting 2.7% (323 votes)
o Repeal the ban on hand guns 82.83% (9,914 votes)

In my opinion, this is a rough unscientific measure of the opinion of readers of The Telegraph who cared enough to propose ideal bills and vote on them in the poll. But somehow I think it is more reflective of opinion of British citizens who have experienced a handgun ban since 1996-1997 than the claimed 90% US public support for those Assault Weapons Ban and Universal Background Check bills that no one apparently read. At least with the Telegraph bill the people know what they were favoring.
 
I wish that poll represented the actual sentiments of 84% of the UK population. Unfortunately, from what I can see right here on the ground, the majority of the population is quite happy to subscribe to the ideals of the nanny state when it comes to views on gun ownership.
There are some good signs that a turn around is happening in general, particularly with regards to self defense in the home. There have been some highly-publicized cases of goblins taking a licking (or even getting shot) on private property and the home-owners not being jailed like they might have been in years gone by.

To fix this country, there has to be a greater emphasis on individual responsibility and a reawakening of common sense policing and law making. With that responsibility comes risk, that's preferable to me than the current situation.

Still a lot of nanny state nonsense happening though. Check out the story of the three-cornered flapjack and the cheese-rolling race:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...hool-bans-dangerous-triangular-flapjacks.html

http://news.sky.com/story/1096178/cheese-rolling-contestants-chase-foam-disc

I have always believed the UK is more "advanced" when it comes to the nanny state idealogy, but I have to say it looks like the US is following suit. It seems to me that it gets tried in the UK first, then adopted in one of your fine "Blue" states and then disseminates from there.

Both countries have to get a lot worse before they get better and I think the UK will turn that corner first (well we are deeper in the doo-doo for starters...)
 
There are very few people I argue gun laws with on the internet.
Strangely, when I find myself in one, it seems to always be brits.
 
I say it's fine.
Turn about is fair play.
I mean after all, 90% of Americans want more gun control right?
lol.....
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Some of us think "they did it first" is not a valid excuse to lack integrity. Integrity aside, one appears ignorant to quote an online poll as evidence to support a position.

Awe, you beat me to it! If Obama can tout online polls as fact then you had bet we can too.
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Can you cite an example in which this was done?
 
JustinJ said:
Some of us think "they did it first" is not a valid excuse to lack integrity. Integrity aside, one appears ignorant to quote an online poll as evidence to support a position.



Can you cite an example in which this was done?
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Integrity? Ignorance?
This is politics man....lol
I'd convince people aliens are on the moon and about to invade earth if I thought it would help preserve our Constitutional Rights bro.
Just sayin'....
 
wasn't the soldier that got killed with an axe or knife in the UK? ...that ought to be a message to them that everyone needs to have the right to own & carry
 
the UK is controlled by a very select elite
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Even if the poll were valid, even if 100% of the citizenry wanted handguns, the elitists will not allow that to impact the law.

Kind of reminds us of some sections of the US.
 
Cosmoline,
The Rothchild's will be very unhappy with you. They won't appreciate your pointing fingers.
They are a very scary bunch. George Soros and the DNC are mere bebes in the woods.
I fully expect my tin foil hat to melt when I touch "Post Quick Reply".
 
Hopefully the People of the UK will stand up and demand action, I would think even in a monarchy with enough pressure something like could be changed. If not, time for a revolution.
 
What matters is the poll yet to be taken of British Politician’s attitudes towards handgun ownership. I predict it would go

99.9 % of British Politicians are afraid of being shot by angry constituents with handguns.

It is much easier to Tyrannize an unarmed populace than an armed one…..:rolleyes:
 
Odd Job said:
I wish that poll represented the actual sentiments of 84% of the UK population. Unfortunately, from what I can see right here on the ground, the majority of the population is quite happy to subscribe to the ideals of the nanny state when it comes to views on gun ownership.
There are some good signs that a turn around is happening in general, particularly with regards to self defense in the home. There have been some highly-publicized cases of goblins taking a licking (or even getting shot) on private property and the home-owners not being jailed like they might have been in years gone by.
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With the recent grisly murder of the off-duty soldier and the subsequent anti-muslim backlash, more people are probably thinking about the self-defense issue. The more they think about it, the more they will realize what they have lost. That may encourage them to try harder to get those rights back.;)
 
In a society where you can go to jail for holding a pencil inappropriately, or carrying anything sharper than a rubber spatula, I seriously doubt returning guns to the people will ever be a reality.
 
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