actual good advice from "Swamp People"

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One of the gator hunters set up on land to try to shoot a gator because someone had tore down all their lines. The guy was said to have been a sniper in the military and he actually had some very good advice for would be marksmen. He talked about how to control your heart beat when taking a shot. He uses a different method than I use but I'm sure what he does will work very well. I've heard it explained the way he does it before but I've never tried it. He lets his breath all the way out which leads to your heart not beating for a couple of seconds. That gives you plenty of time to take your shot. I just time my shots to go between times my heart beats. It works but it takes some practice to get a shot off at just the right time. Either way should improve your accuracy. Even the slightest movement of a rifle can translate to a miss on a long shot. And a heartbeat can make your rifle move especially if you're shooting from a prone position. Learning to overcome that can make a big difference in your accuracy and I actually heard a Hollywood production give you good advice on doing that. That's the really amazing part.
 
You been watching reruns!! And good advise most of use learn from dads that were in the military or a good nra instructor. For me that was 50 years ago.
 
Controlling your breath is practiced with every shot.

Controlling your heart rate is a different matter, you cannot stop your heart by inhaling, holding or exhaling, but you can control your torso/shoulder's movements with practiced breathing control. Then its trigger control time.

I did see this show tonight at a dinner, and the guy was pretty good.

I also got a kick outta the guys 'fishing" for an incomeing Gator, and it got away!! then his gator/ fish story; "He was this big!!!" :D
 
Like I said I've never tried to use the method he describes but it does seem as if my heart slows down a lot after I exhale when I'm very relaxed anyway. It doesn't stop of course. They call that "dead". :) But it will only beat about once every two seconds and that makes it much easier to shoot between beats. The only hard part is to be able to feel when your heart is beating so you know when to pull the trigger. It takes some practice to time your trigger pull to just the right moment between beats but it can be done. I know I'm not the only person that knows this. I'm just surprised to see it said on any Hollywood production. They aren't usually that smart. Not that I'm all that smart but they're just generally pretty dumb about such things.

BTW that wasn't a rerun. It may have been done before but my timer is set to only record new shows. So unless they listed it as new when it wasn't then it wasn't a rerun. Besides those guys from Texas were on the show and they haven't been around all that long. I will admit to not knowing about all their episodes. The one thing they do is repeat the same story line over and over and over. If you've seen one you've pretty much seen every episode so I'm not someone that's watched every episode.

BTW I certainly know that running or any exertion can make your heart beat much harder than normal. I've been watching the Olympic shooting competitions, where the ski cross country then shoot, since I was a little kid and they bring that up all the time. I didn't really bring this up to tell people about shooting between heart beats. I was posting because I was surprised that Hollywood actually gave out useful info. I only explained things for the people who might not know about shooting between heart beats.
 
Relaxing is the only way to control your heartbeat.
I haven't had my scopes picture bounce around, but I have felt my rifle moveing until I took a couple breaths and relaxed. I belive lying prone has to be the most relaxing, and taken as a whole, the guy in the show was, indeed, correct.

Ive done EMT work for 20 years with our SnR , and I may be a little picky as to how the body functions, so I mean no disrespect to the OP , I love shooting and I think we all know that moment when we take up the slack :D

true "Gun Control" as defined by putting 3 bullets into the same hole, or gator.....
 
I would be very impressed if you could slow your heart rate down to 30 (that's one every two seconds like you said) via controlled breathing. Anything under 60 beats per minute is considered bradycardia. Jumping into ice cold water may slow your heart rate down that much due to the mammalian dive reflex but I highly doubt simple breathing exercises would do so. The lowest resting heart rate I've recorded not requiring a pacemaker was 46/min compliments of a second degree heart block. I don't care to much for the show "Swamp People" but I do like "Myth Busters."


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My resting heart rate is 48, but I train 1-2 times daily for triathlon. I cannot detect any decrease in my heart rate through just exhaling.
 
My resting heart rate is 48. I train 1-2 times daily for triathlon. I cannot detect any decrease in my heart rate through just exhaling.

Obstacle racer here, and mine is around 50. I am in the same boat. Can't detect a decrease in heart rate. Now Lance Armstrong with a resting heart rate of 32-34 BPM... That man is an absolute machine.
 
Controlling your heart rate is a different matter, you cannot stop your heart by inhaling, holding or exhaling, but you can control your torso/shoulder's movements with practiced breathing control. Then its trigger control time.

Not true. Look up respiratory sinus arrhythmia. Most people will exhibit this normal arrhythmia. When you inhale your heart rate increases, and when you exhale it decreases. It won't STOP, but it will increase the time between heart beats (sometimes dramatically) making it easier to get a shot off.
 
i recommend focusing on sight alignment and trigger control.

i do subconsciously pause my breathing ever so briefly before taking a shot, but i don't pay any attention to my heartbeat. if your heartbeat is giving you problems, you have a bad position and need to remediate it.
 
I am an avid mountain biker, my rhr is quite low also, but I have learned that while exhaling there is a significant decrease in pulse and with each deep breath there is an increase. However, unless I sprint or something my heart beat hasn't been a problem as it just doesn't pound, and I routinely shoot 600 yards from prone. Not really a sniper shot I know, but just how far away was that gator.lol
 
Again it's not my theory that your heart slows down at the end of a deep breath being exhaled but I have heard it elsewhere. As for not paying attention to when your heart beats I've heard that many, many times and I practice it myself with noticeable results. Learning to recognize when your heart is beating is not difficult. I learned that by sitting with my hand on my heart so that I knew for sure when my heart was beating and then looking for clues that I might feel to tell me when my heart beats.

I do know that it this is taught in some military circles. I looked for a link or two and found many. Here are a couple:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/sniper-school-101-part-1-before-you-go-to-the-range/

http://www.scatt.com/articles/17/pulse-technique/

http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/ready-aim-shoot-marksmen-heartrate-shoot/

This could be a very long list. It seems that even those really good shooters who don't know they're doing it shoot between heartbeats too. That's what I read anyway.
 
I know that when I am shooting my rifles I tend to use a similar approach. I will breath slowly and consistently for several minutes before I get to the line, and I will continue this same breathing method after I get settled into my shooting position. This means that I know my heart rate, and I can inhale and exhale at a known rate. This enables me to shoot when I am at the same point in the cycle. I don't know about whether my heart beat makes a difference at that point or not, but breathing does. If my heartbeat could throw off a shot then I am probably shooting beyond my comfort zone/skill level and I should not be taking the shot. This is the method I use, and it was the same method I was taught by a U.S. Navy firearms instructor when I was 16 years old. We did an informal competition and I was only 6 points behind him after I perfected this method, so it does work with practice.
 
Was taught pretty much the same thing, take a couple of long controlled breaths to steady your heart rate, then a long exhale with a pause at the end, during which you squeeze the trigger. When doing this I can feel my heart beat quite easily, and I feel it make me more accurate.
 
Breath control is taught differently in the military now. Before holding your breath to take a shot was the standard. At the end of your exhale is a natural pause in the control of your diaphragm (which controls breathing) before you start your next inhale. At that natural pause, at the end of your exhale is where you should take your shot.

The reason for the change (as taught to me so take it as you will) was because when you hold your breath it is harder to maintain correct body position because your body is tense from holding your breath. Whereas if you shoot at the natural pause, your body is more relaxed. I have tried both methods and have been able to shoot more consistently accurate shooting at the pause in my breathing cycle. But I am a strong proponent of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
 
I thought that too SabbathWolf until I tried shooting between heartbeats. It does make a difference. Considering what a slight amount of movement it takes to make the difference between a 1 hole group and a half inch group every tiny movement makes a difference.

BTW the way I've been shooting for years is to let my breath half the way out. It avoids the straining of holding a full breath and it keeps your body from moving to try to get a breath. I haven't even tried the method mentioned on the show though. I'll give it try the next time I get to do some shooting which unfortunately isn't nearly as often as this time last year. Dang ammo shortage anyway.
 
I thought that too SabbathWolf until I tried shooting between heartbeats. It does make a difference. Considering what a slight amount of movement it takes to make the difference between a 1 hole group and a half inch group every tiny movement makes a difference.

BTW the way I've been shooting for years is to let my breath half the way out. It avoids the straining of holding a full breath and it keeps your body from moving to try to get a breath. I haven't even tried the method mentioned on the show though. I'll give it try the next time I get to do some shooting which unfortunately isn't nearly as often as this time last year. Dang ammo shortage anyway.
You could be right. I'm not doubting that. I just don't know.
Truthfully, I usually can't even feel my heart beating when I shoot.
It's not something I can easily recognize.

For breathing, I agree.
Lungs filled to 1/2 capacity or so is the steadiest for me too.
Sometimes I inhale 1/2 a breath.
Sometimes I exhale 1/2 a breath.
Sometimes both if multiple targets are involved.

I do it pretty much like this, but I agree there are other methods too.
My lungs are never totally full or empty either when I shoot.

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