Multiple Illinois Counties no longer prosecuting concealed carry

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(At least Peoria came out and said "we haven't tried any UUW cases in the last 6 months", the others.. not so much.)
 
After pulling interior panels off, running the dogs through, etc (they made a REAL mess of my Z28), they bring me my locked briefcase and demanded I open it.

Did they put the interior back together? If so, was it done so satisfactorily? Sometimes you end up with rattles when you mess with all that stuff...
 
"I refused a search of my car once, they got a warrant that listed the interior of the car.

After pulling interior panels off, running the dogs through, etc (they made a REAL mess of my Z28), they bring me my locked briefcase and demanded I open it.

"I'm sorry, that isn't on the warrant."

They tried to get ANOTHER warrant but the judge wouldn't answer the phone again (by then, it was early AM..)

So I got my briefcase back (which contained a Glock 21), and on my way I went.."

Which is the reason I avoid travel in Illinois as much as possible. When you look at the above it's clear that the extra cost in time and money to go around is well worth it. The same can be said of most of the northeast and California. They won't miss me, nor I them.
 
"I refused a search of my car once, they got a warrant that listed the interior of the car.

After pulling interior panels off, running the dogs through, etc (they made a REAL mess of my Z28), they bring me my locked briefcase and demanded I open it.

"I'm sorry, that isn't on the warrant."

They tried to get ANOTHER warrant but the judge wouldn't answer the phone again (by then, it was early AM..)

So I got my briefcase back (which contained a Glock 21), and on my way I went.."

Which is the reason I avoid travel in Illinois as much as possible. When you look at the above it's clear that the extra cost in time and money to go around is well worth it. The same can be said of most of the northeast and California. They won't miss me, nor I them.



To be fair to the ISP and Knox County deputies, this wasn't your 'typical traffic stop'.

I was a known member of a militia group, speeding on the interstate at 1 AM, about 20 minutes from where the leader of the group was sitting in jail awaiting trial on 13 felony counts.

They sent out a statewide alert, brought in a tac team, had news reporters show up (and get sent away), and shut down interstate 74 westbound.

Quite the event.

I was on my way to work in Iowa, had to be there in the morning to fix a computer network. But the timing and location where I got stopped.. horrible. :)

(The Glock was unloaded, and legally carried in an "other container", but I was in my early 20's and felt like messing with them when I refused the search. What set it all off, was I had a dud 308 round visible in my ashtray, the officer saw it from the passenger window when talking to me. I showed him my FOID and argued that a single rifle round was not probable cause for a search... that's when things went south)
 
City of Peoria Police, Peoria County Sheriff, and the Peoria County States Attorney have publicly stated that they will not prosecute law abiding citizens who chose to CCW. This means a valid Firearm Owners Identification card and no outstanding warrants.
Illinois State Police are mandated to follow the letter of the law BUT, the word is they will no ask about firearms in vehicle during a normal traffic stop situation, i.e. speeding, etc.
If they do have to arrest, you will go to Peoria county courts and they will drop the case, however, if the State seizes your firearm, you may play heck getting it back.

Because I live in rural Peoria county and can encounter State Police, I have been packing a Kel-Tec P32 right now.
I won't miss this gun too much if it disappears.
I have my G26 ready to go when everything becomes written in stone.
 
Feels very, very strange.

I never given much thought to how difficult it is to effectively conceal a firearm in summertime. I really need a smaller gun. Concealing a full sized handgun is not easy. I don't own any 'compacts'.

But, I'm making due, and not printing. At least, not too bad. :)

PS I'm also carrying cheap gear, in case it's seized.
 
To be fair to the ISP and Knox County deputies, this wasn't your 'typical traffic stop'.

So it would seem... :uhoh:

Anyway, other then Cook County I wouldn't know one county from another, and the law enforcement community has members with all sorts of opinions about "civilians" carrying guns, and even more so if they catch one that isn't a resident.

It would seem that at the current minute no one knows exactly what the law is, and to some degree it depends on which county you're in and who does the catching. Quite frankly, the Old Fuff does not want to test the waters, nor does he want his transportation spread out all over the ground by some cops that think it's great fun to take things apart and leave it to someone else to put things back together.

But I wish you guys the best of luck. You've go it coming. ;)
 
several more Illinois counties need to step up and push back. the second amendment was written centuries ago, the court has ruled in favor of CCW and Illinois is still not allowing it

this is one strange world.......
 
I think the issue is IL can't afford to print up all those CCW/CHL cards. They do seem to have an unending budget for trying to tie this up in court.
 
This is an amazing thread. It gives us a glimpse of what it is like to live as a slave.
 
To be fair to the ISP and Knox County deputies, this wasn't your 'typical traffic stop'.

I was a known member of a militia group, speeding on the interstate at 1 AM, about 20 minutes from where the leader of the group was sitting in jail awaiting trial on 13 felony counts.

They sent out a statewide alert, brought in a tac team, had news reporters show up (and get sent away), and shut down interstate 74 westbound.

Quite the event.

I was on my way to work in Iowa, had to be there in the morning to fix a computer network. But the timing and location where I got stopped.. horrible. :)

(The Glock was unloaded, and legally carried in an "other container", but I was in my early 20's and felt like messing with them when I refused the search. What set it all off, was I had a dud 308 round visible in my ashtray, the officer saw it from the passenger window when talking to me. I showed him my FOID and argued that a single rifle round was not probable cause for a search... that's when things went south)
Sounds like Shoemaker?
I met him once before they made an example of him and made him the poster boy for what happens when you challenge the authorities and their laws. I think he didn't have much fun for quite awhile after that.
 
Sounds like Shoemaker?
I met him once before they made an example of him and made him the poster boy for what happens when you challenge the authorities and their laws. I think he didn't have much fun for quite awhile after that.

Yup, the one and only.

If I recall correctly (been a long time) the only charges that stuck were the UUW charges. The others were not guilty on reason of entrapment, or insufficient evidence. Served two years. Went to visit him after he got out of Joliet, and he was much.. different. Haven't talked to him in years. (He may have a shot at getting his right's restored using the 7th's decision..)

They held him with a 2 million dollar bond on him, highest ever in those counties, higher than was ever assigned to murderers or rapists.

Things got interesting after that. The entire core group got listed as "armed and dangerous" for months. I got stopped, searched, handcuffed, had countless cops draw on me (and, my toddler). During the trial, I even had one Knox county guy point a loaded M4 at me and flick the safety off when I asked if I could take his picture; in broad daylight, on the courthouse property.

I raised hell with the undersheriff over that. He pulled the deputy up to an empty court room and made him get his picture taken with me, the undersheriff, the FBI special agent Gary Karnes, and some other folks. Still got the photo in a box somewhere.

Interesting times.

And.. man how times change.

What Dan Shoemaker wanted all that time ago was to force the issue and have our rights to self defense recognized in IL. (The entire point of the exercise, was to martyr himself, and show the world that the state will kill, before it will allow people to bear arms to protect themselves. He was quite prepared to die with that M14 in his arms.)


And.. here we are, over a decade later, watching the end of that struggle unfold.
 
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