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I purchased a .45 ACP pistol today from a nice gentleman in a grey Mini Cooper S. He seemed nice enough and in the course of the small talk I failed to inspect this pistol as thoroughly as I would normally. I felt he was knowedgable enough to be believed on function and seemed sane at the time. I purchased the pistol and left.

The pistol is fantastic. What was not was the .45 caliber bullet lodged halfway down the barrel. Not sure if he was an idiot or a homicidal lunatic. If I had not purchased that gun, some one else may have taken it straight to the range and loaded up a magazine and proceeded to blow the gun and themselves up.
We have all popped a squib load that lodged halfway...but to leave one in and SELL THE GUN is criminally negligent at best, psychotic at worst.

But it gets better.

When I got the bullet out...it was never fired. Brand new bullet hadn't seen powder, case or primer. He just took a Speer jacketed hollow point and jammed it up the bore.

I believe he fully intended to blow this gun up. And the new owner with it.
Interpret as you will. But please tell your gun friends...

Check your gun purchases carefully before firing.

Keep emails and phone numbers of sellers to assist authorities of these 'booby trapped' guns.

Always get ID and bill of sale.

I got the emails and license plate number for OSP and BATF so they will hopefully check on this potential psycho anti-gun terrorist.
Be careful dealing with strangers!!
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Wow! That is scary. I frequently buy used guns, and always carry a bore light with me, which is just for inspecting the rifling and general condition. Never considered that someone would do something so wicked.

K
 
Who with any sense at all would not inspect the bore of an unknown weapon before firing it, particularly if it is new or coming from an unknown source. I don't even trust myself and give the bores a look before loading up at the range.
 
Where did this happen? That has to be one of the craziest gun stories I ever heard. He deserves an attempted manslughter rap. He had to know what he did, so it was intent to cause gievous harm. He should catch an arrest for it. You should have documented it, "I hope you took some pictures" or had a whitness.
 
In all my 50+ years of buying, selling, and trading guns??

I never walked away from a deal without first inspecting the gun, and then getting the other persons name and address, and more lately, a cell-phone photo of the drivers license.

I have a loose-leaf book about 4" think with sales receipts, bills of sale, photos, and buyer / seller I'D's dating back to 1962 in the book shelf of every gun I ever bought or sold.

The buyer who posted the incident is as at fault as the seller.

Whether his intentions were criminal, or he was just stupid and sold a gun he knew nothing about.

I'm not ready to run outside and yell "The Sky is Falling!' just quite yet, based on that poorly transacted transaction.

rc
 
I've never bought any gun that I didnt look down the barrel first. At the very least it gives a clue of the care the gun has received.
 
Just sounds like a dummy doing something that probably "seemed like a good idea at the time" like curiosity about projectile friction in the bore or wanting to see rifling grooves on an un-impacted projectile then the commercial ended and he went back to watching The Walking Dead and forgot that it was in there.

Seems like a lot to go through for the possible consequence of getting some one so out of touch as to no look down the bore before firing a new gun let alone not cleaning it.
 
BS, says I.

A buyer savvy enough to identify the type and maker of a bullet with ease is too dumb to look down the bore of a used gun before purchasing?

Somebody's trying to make an urban legend.
 
Hmmmmmm..... Im not sure I believe the story. You have a picture of a mini without front tags in which your required to have in OR. and if your gonna post pictures why no picture of the pristine bullet/etc.
 
Geronimo45 said:
BS, says I.

A buyer savvy enough to identify the type and maker of a bullet with ease is too dumb to look down the bore of a used gun before purchasing?

Somebody's trying to make an urban legend.
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that was my first thought
 
When I got the bullet out...it was never fired. Brand new bullet hadn't seen powder, case or primer. He just took a Speer jacketed hollow point and jammed it up the bore.
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How can he tell that it was never fired? What kind of marks does firing a bullet leave that it doesn't get by being "jammed" halfway up the barrel? Did he expect the base to be melted or something? I see FMJ bullets dug out of a range backstop all the time that look brand new except for the rifling marks.

My guess would be that the rest of the story is equally true.
 
I'm far too skeptical a person as a matter of course to be able to believe the story.

But even if a guy bought a gun with a squib stuck in the barrel... there's no evidence to say that the handgun was not being sold from the estate of the seller's deceased relative and the seller knew nothing of the squib.

There's about as much evidence that the seller knew the bullet was lodged in the barrel as there is that he didn't know it was there at all.
 
Well urban legend or other wise it's still a good cautionary tale enforcing the idea that you should always always always check the bore
 
Geronimo45

BS, says I.

A buyer savvy enough to identify the type and maker of a bullet with ease is too dumb to look down the bore of a used gun before purchasing?

Somebody's trying to make an urban legend.
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I agree 100%!

Plus saying that you are going to contact the BATF seems a bit extreme. There is hardly enough evidence to point to anything other then negligence (which as some have pointed out both buyer and seller seemed negligent).
 
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