How do you see your hits at 100 yds or further?

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I use a Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 FFP on my .308 bolt gun and a Bushnell 4200 Elite 6-24x50 FFP on my .308 semi-auto. Both allow me to clearly see .308 holes @ 100 yds on white paper targets. Of the two, the Viper PST provides a better view of the target, even though it has less magnification. The difference in quality is apparent, IMO.
 
I use a "Vortex® Impact RA 25-75x70 mm Angled Spotting Scope" for most things past 100 yards. In my experience any of my 9x and higher scopes work fine for 100 yards holes on things .22 and larger.

Did no one else find this creepy? Guy watching the school playground with a spotting scope... :scrutiny:

David Clark -
I live across from a school and from my house I can look out on to the playground and at 300 yds.
 
I find you a little creepy to even think what you might be thinking I'm 73 and was a gunsmith for over 40 years and have used that end of the playground as they keep it mowed for checking out all types of optics in that 40 years.
Dave
 
I can see individual .224 bullet holes at 100 yds with a 6.5 x 20X Leupold rifle scope or a pair of 15X binoculars I have.
 
I use a spotting scope when the target is out past 150 or so. But for 100 yds. a 3x9 Leupold is plenty of magnification to cleanly recognize groups if completely stabilized. And the upper class rifle scopes out to 18x will do the trick out to 200 yds. and even a bit more. Magnification isn't the only issue though, which is why a pair of 10x or 12x glasses on a tripod is certainly adequate for 100-200 yds, they are stabilized.

GS
 
I went with a cheaper spotting scope and it was a pure waste of money. OK, it worked decently for 100 yards but that was about it. But even then it was a strain on the eyes to see the holes.

I then went shopping and it was a tossup between a new $400 Bushnell and a used Nikon for the same $400. I went with the Nikon.

Now I can clearly see my .375 size holes even out at 300 yards. At 100 yards I can clearly see .22 size holes even at less than full magnification. It's like the targets are simply moved to about 10 yards away.

There simply are some things in life where it is not worth going cheap. It cost me $120 to find out that this is clearly true when it comes to spotting scopes.
I don't care if you spend 4000 on a spotter you will not see holes in a black bull after 100 yds. maybe one out of 8. that is why at matches they have spotters in the pits marking the shots
 
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I use 12 white paper plates. draw a cross on the plate with a magic marker line up the crosshairs on the scope with the cross I drew on the plate and wail away. you can see the holes in the white plate with a 40 dollar scope
 
A 45 power spotting scope used to be enough for me to clearly see my .30 holes. Haven't shot at 100 yards in years, so I don't know if it is still good for me, though I'll be finding out next year for sure.
 
I use a children's 300x astro telescope and a phone adapter on the eyepiece. Lock it on target an all you have to do is glance down an its right there on the screen works great out to at least 300 yds;):cool:
 
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I use either my Kowa 821TSN with 20-60 eye piece, or an older Swarovski I bought while stationed in Europe. Most of the time when I’m shooting past 300 it’s on steel, so there’s no issue seeing the splash.

385 meters:

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500 yards:

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Chuck
 
Until i buy the proper equipment: ie, a spotting scope (which is probably never considering it's been like 5 years since I should have one)
a, big caliber, big holes (lol) but I don't shoot my big-bore gun at long range.
b, don't shoot paper since it's boring and I can't see my hits
c, shoot steel targets and listen for the 'ping!'
d, use the 4-16x scope i have on my two target shooting rifles- marlin 22 and savage 11 223.

a spotting scope isn't expensive, i've seen Big 5 have them for as low as $60 on sale, I just keep pushing it off.
I favor steel targets, especially at longer distances because if you're doing it wrong you won't hear the ping. it's not precision but I don't have scopes on the other rifles so I'm not shooting precision if I can't aim precisely.
I don't really do precision shooting, it sucks the fun out of shooting. What makes me happy is when I challenge myself and hear the ping shooting rifles at ridiculous ranges they're not designed for- ie, SKS at 700m, wasr at 600 yard, mosin at 500m. A good day means I manage more than 3/4 of shots hit the target. From this I know i'm more than capable of doing tiny groups at 100 yards, I just don't care for it.
 
I would get as high a power as possible. At least 40x but 60x is better.
I would go as high a quality as possible. As long as it provides at least minimal magnification, optical quality is more important to being able to see small bullet holes at long range than brute force magnification. There are occasional bargains, but for the most part you get what you pay for in spotting scopes.
 
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Well today I printed the targets with the most white space (Lee Precision free printable targets) and stapled them to the black rubber target holder at the range and on 16x (Centerpoint 4-16 scope), I could see the holes clear as day. I guess that's the key... targets with LOTS of white space and less black then that on top of a black backstop. Worked amazingly well.
 
I have the cheap $120 Barska Blackhawk 20-60x60 spotting scope and it works great spotting 6.5 bullet holes at 100/200 yards on white paper. It works ok even at 300m if the light is decent. My paper targets are blank white paper with a 1" round orange dot in the center.
 
I regularly shoot at a range which regardless of scope, you cannot see 30 caliber holes at 200 yards. The mirage is so soupy.

Range conditions vary greatly. Camp Perry has some of the cleanest air and I have seen 30 caliber bullets holes at 300 yards, during rapid fire, but such things are rare.

Eventually the mirage and heat waves totally ruin your ability to discriminate a bullet hole from the target face.

I am very pleased with my “for the money” Celestron Ultima 65, though I mostly use it the low end of the 18X -55 X zoom adjustment.

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