How to pin a muzzle brake?

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Lovesbeer99

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Anyone have good instructions on how to permanently install a muzzle break on an AR15 pattern rifle? I've searched and can't find anything that looks likes it was done correctly or provided complete instructions. Unless I'm just not searching correctly you tube was no help.

Thanks in advance.
 
If you want to make it permanent then silver solder it on. I had the same problem with mine with a brake for coyote shooting. Pinning and getting it right is a gunsmith operation.

And sigh my eye steel horse rider. My brake lets me see where I shoot with zero jump so chasing a yote is easy.

I don't have instructions for soldering but its pretty basic.
 
For legality on a barrel that is not long enough by itself?

Spot weld externally

Drill, pin, weld, and grind off excess weld.

Silver Brazing the threads.


Permanent is... permanent.



The comment to your post at the top is a spelling correction. We install Muzzle Brakes, not "Muzzle Breaks".


Actually, we usually install flash hiders... ;-)


Willie

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Well I for one am glad you did. The break/brake thing drives me kind of bonkers just as the grammatical errors are worrisome as well.
Though it may seem rude to some, it's doing the writer (and many of us all) a big favor by citing those errors.
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Worrying about spelling is the least you should be worrying about. This is not an English class... ;-)

What are you trying to attach and what are you trying to attach it to? More details will help others suggest a technique. In any event, having access to welding equipment is probably going to be part of the answer.


Willie

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I'm not so sure that soldiering on a muzzle device is considered to be perminate in all states. Soldiering can be reversed by heating the device back up and taking it off again. Where pinninig or welding is seen to be perminate. You want to talk to a competent gunsmith in your area. He should know the correct answer and the job shouldn't be that big of a job. Good luck!

ETA: one nice thing that can be done, though it will cost more, is to have the brake pinned or welded on then have it turned down to the same diameter of the barrel and refinished to look like an extension of the barrel itself. This does a couple things..... 1, looks better/custom. 2, allows for the front sight or gasblock to still be removed at a later date. C, becasue its different ;) please keep us posted with pics!
 
BATF regs state-
Silver Brazed(1400deg F) not soft soldered(450-600deg F) devise to Bbl or by welding.

As stated previously once installed-,drilled,pinned & TIG welded/blended-Permanent by Fed Regulations!
 
"I'm not so sure that soldiering on a muzzle device is considered to be perminate in all states".


The legal requirement is Federal, not state, and as pointed out above *silver brazing* which is often incorrectly called "silver soldering" is one of the methods specifically listed by the BATFE as approved for permanent installations. It requires an oxy-acetelyne torch, good flux, and the correct braze rod.


Willie

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Good to know. I didn't think soldering was right. Brazing makes sense.

And, I should point out that if you want to have the muzzle device turned down to the barrel size, its more for a heavier barrel profile, and to make sure the device has enough material to be saftly turned down to the barrels didimensions.
 
IIRC a pin in a blind hole is considered permanant. "Blind" being not all the way through, so you can drive the pin in but not back out.

Nothing is permanant to someone with the right equipment. Even a receiver that is torch cut into three sections can be put back together by someone who knows what they are doing.
 
So which is the best choice for having the 'permanent' installation be reversible?
An example is that I recently bought a new Hera comp. I have a 14.5" barrel for my build and it seemed to fit my function, size and appearance needs quite nicely. But I've never shot one. If it turns out to be a bad choice, I'd like the option of replacing it with another legal one.
I thought the intent of the law is to ensure that no one can readily remove a legal threaded device to place an illegal threaded device on the barrel without significant forethought and activity. I didn't think it was to forever make that barrel unchangeable such that one couldn't replace a legal device with another illegal device.
So, assuming that is true, which of the approved processes best fits my intent? To be fair, I've never removed/replaced a legally attached barrel device before, but I am planning to build a few uppers and plan to test out a few options.

Thx,
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put the brake/flash hider in the final position,mark the lowest point.take it off and find somebody to either use a drill or a bridgeport end mill to cut a 1/4 inch hole.reinstall,then use a mig welder to fill up the hole flush.paint
 
Bingo, the process described above can be reversed with a milling machine. Sorry but it's not going to be easy to swap thing on and off a 14.5 barrel. Do your homework using a 16 inches before welding it onto a 14.5, or register it as a SBR and forget about welding.


Willie

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