How accurate is your AK platform?

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I have a polytech aks-762 side folder leaning against a tree or my jeep I can normally keep just under 3 MOA that's with rusky mil surp. I was planning on trying out some quality ammo just never have.
 
My best shooting with my Arsenal '74 was a 5 shot group just under 2" at 100 yards using Russian 7n6 and iron sights. I don't shoot it off the bench often though so I'll admit to not being real good at the whole accuracy thing. A friend of mine who is an experienced competition bench shooter has gotten 1.5" groups out of the same rifle using the same ammo and irons. He briefly considered doing some hand loads for it just to see what it would really do but thinking about it is as far we ever got.

It's still a bit of an experiment right now but Marc Krebs has built a sub moa AK. The original prototype was in 6.5 Grendel but I think he did a couple more in standard calibers (5.56,5.45,etc.) that were about the same level of accuracy.
 
I know this is an older thread but for anyone still interested I recently tested my WASR rifle with several brands of ammo at 100 yards shooting of of a gripod, laying prone, no sandbag. Here are the results.

All groups were 5 shots:

Wolf Black Box = 6 inches

Wolf Military Classic = 4 inches

Tulammo FMJ = 2 inches

Remington Core Lokt PSP 125 grain = 2.5 inches

Golden Bear Bimetal HP = 1.5 inches

These were the brands that I had alot of.
Golden bear really stood out from the rest. I believe it is also a legal hunting round(will have to check to make sure). One thing I noticed with the Golden bear is that the holes in the target weren't jagged. There were perfectly round like a hole puncher. I believe this is a result of perfect harmonics with the barrel on the WASR. All other brands hit the paper slightly out of balance resulting in jagged tears. I think that this would matter more at longer distances. All in all, I was super impressed with the Golden Bear(Barnaul plant). I will never buy another box of any kind of Wolf ammo. It just plain sucks. It didn't even come close to the other brands.
 
Budget, those are some pretty decent groups. I'm impressed you even got 2MOA with factory Tula Ammo.

I briefly owned a WASR 10/63 beginning of this year (was sold last summer) and it was a pretty good shooter. Although I never bench rest any of my AK's for accuracy due to lack of a decent range in my area.
 
w/ a midwest aimpoint mount, a compm2 aimpoint, and some sellier and bellot brass case, i make 5 round groups at 25yds one big hole during zero-in today. Very pleased.
 
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i would say 4.5" groups at 100 w/ iron sights is a lot better than those short- radius, leaf style iron sights are intended to perform- that's good shooting!!!
I put a peep-style iron on mine; when i'm not specifically using it I protect that aimpoint cuz it was 'spensive for me, but I don't think I as a shooter could shoot that AK that well.
 
All this talk on MOA and grouping and worried about more than 2" MOA with any of these AKs. Don't frett for pity sake. Even if you have 6" MOA, that is still hitting in a 12" circle at a hundred yards. This what this gun was designed for, do some serious damage on a man size target at about that distance. And it does just that!!
 
if your AK is only firing 6moa, you should immediately clear it and put it away until you can re-install that rivet that fell out of the trunnion so the barrel stops flopping around. That's just not safe
 
Saiga 5.45

1.3-1.5 for five shots at 100yds prone with a 4x scope

ammo was 7N6 and Silver Bear


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a quality AK is just as accurate as a quality AR15.. the reason you have this misconception that AKs are so inaccurate has a lot to do with a lot of people owning some pretty poorly put together AKs from places like century and the romanian AKs were never upper tier in quality either, nowhere near the quality of polish, east german, or bulgarian AKs

polish archer rifles (they are 5.56mm) will shoot as well and sometimes better than a standard configuration AR15 (im not going to include AR15s with match barrels, free float shrouds etc because then it wouldnt be a fair comparison as the archer shoots 1 MOA without all of that, so compare it to a similar equipped AR)

another reason AKs seem to be a lot less accurate when compared to other rifles is the fact that for the longest time the only choices youve had in ammunition has been old military surplus ammo where handloaded and match ammo for the AR15 has been around for a very long time.. so comparisons are usually done with quality factory or handloaded ammo in the AR15 and surplus in the AK.. again, not a fair comparison

this is all assuming using similar optics as well, not iron sights which would also yield better results for the AR15

this is why its nice to see the test results from the archer rifle, being a 5.56mm AK youre capable of using the same ammunition in each of them for an accurate comparison with fewer variables and yeah.. theres absolutely nothing about the AK design itself that makes it inaccurate, just low quality builds and bad ammo muddying up the test results

on another note, there are a number of people that have been able to achieve sub-MOA accuracy with saiga 308s using match ammo.. so an 800 yard rifle is well within the realm of possibility
 
i have a cheap wasr1063m, some pics shooting with a reddot checking for accuracy, but yet to try 100y with the reddot...hopefully soon
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At 50 yards, my converted Saiga makes a ragged hole with Golden Tiger. I've never bothered going for groups at 100, only verified that it smacks steel, and moved on.
 
In 1995 I bought a Norinco MAK 90 in 7.62 and the best it would do was 6" at 75 yards. Like traded it fast and have never picked up another AK platform since.
 
And by the way my Spikes middy will shoot a 3/4 inch 100 yard group with military surplus so the AK is as accurate as an AR is out of there. I'm calling BS.
 
And by the way my Spikes middy will shoot a 3/4 inch 100 yard group with military surplus so the AK is as accurate as an AR is out of there. I'm calling BS.
Me too. ;)

I have an AR that will shoot pretty much one holers at 100 yards with reloads it likes. Pop a mag of GI ammo in the gun with the very next mag, and except in random rare instances, 2" is about the best you will get. Its all the ammo is really good for, and no matter how accurate you think the gun might be, youre always at the mercy of the ammo.
 
My converted Saiga shoots Wolf into 1.23-1.5" with one flyer at the 2.0-2.5 inch mark. I have a feeling if I tried better ammo or reloaded some it would be knocking on MOAs door but I have yet to try it. Its more than accurate enough out to the range I use it.

I have the strong feeling the AKs reputation for accuracy has more to do with its comparatively poor sights than the ability of the rifle. I mount a Bushnell 1-4 power shotgun scope on mine. I'm probably going to switch it up to one of my 3-9s if I start reloading for it.
 
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