This explains a lot about the 22lr issues

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Now that the 5.56 and 223 is getting back on shelves I noticed that my lgs had dropped their prices to $8.99 and $11.89 for a box of federal green tip ammo. Three months ago they were selling it for $1.20 a round. During the drought of Obama, they had tons of 5.56, and according to one of their employes they were not able to sell it. So I'm glad people held off.
 
heavydluxe said:
More "Golden Bullets" on the shelves was not what I was hoping for, personally.
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Suits me fine.

They go "Bang!" reliably for me and poke holes in targets as accurately as anything I could reasonably ask for.

People can complain about them all they wish, of course, based on their own experience. But I'm not seeing any reliability issues with the ones I'm shooting at all.

:)
 
Exactly what I was saying. I refuse to pay that and get raped. That's around 5 times more then it was last December. I thought of the perfect analogy the other day: that would be like McDonalds charging $5 for a hamburger just because steaks are $10. People don't seem to notice how bad they're getting screwed because it's more ammo and still cheaper than centerfire. People would sure as heck stop and think if 9mm ammo went to $50+ for 50 rounds. They hire psychologists to see what works and what doesn't. After years of practice they have screwing people over down to a science.
 
I also went to the Gander Mountain "super awesome we wish we could compete with Cabelas and have great service and selection firearms supercenter" in Rodgers, MN and all I saw were tons of boxes of 50 going for 4.99 each. I passed because that is above my 8 cents per round maximum for 22 ammo.

Ammunition is no different than any other commodity. It is worth whatever somebody is willing to pay.
 
HOME DEPOT GEORGE said:
Just for the hell of it I took a peek on gunbroker and these people are either uniformed,caught up in the panic or just plain stupid. I just bought one of these remington 1400rd buckets for 69.99 and this one on gunbroker is at 14 bids at 150 dollars with 4 days left in the auction. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=380642530 This crap is insane with the 500rd remington bricks selling at 40 to 60 dollars.
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I didn't do quite as well with mine. :evil:

www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=379851934
 
RussB said:
George, please realize that you are part of the problem by purchasing ammo at scalper prices! :cuss:
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As has been noted, that's not a bad per round cost.

But, more than that... No, he's not part of the problem. He's a victim of the problem like most of the rest of us. And sometimes, when you're out of ammo, you gotta do what you gotta do.

Yes, buying high-priced ammo from flippers and scalpers encourages bad behavior. But there's only so much rationing or fasting that you can do.
 
I just bought one of these remington 1400rd buckets for 69.99
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RussB said:
George, please realize that you are part of the problem by purchasing ammo at scalper prices!

:cuss:
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$69.99 is a typical retail price for this ammo. I've picked up two such buckets from a local Dick's Sporting Goods for exactly this in Chesapeake, VA.

The "scalpers" you're referring to will turn this around for $200 or more.
 
Maybe I'm still living in the past...I haven't seen any 22LR around here for a year :(


sorry for stirring up a storm
 
I'm not buying any 22LR until prices get back to reality.

If more people did the same thing.. that would happen.

If you want to fix the problem, don't be a part of it. Quit buying 22.

Buy some cheap 7.62x54R, a cheap Mosin, and park the 22 for awhile. :)

(7.62x54R is 20 cents a round on AIM Surplus right now; and Mosin rifles are still fairly cheap. That's a lot of cheap shooting for a full power centerfire...)
 
There was a member here oh THR during the start of the panic that had a wife that wasn't doing so great health wise and all she shot was .22LR. He said no matter what the price he'd still pay it because that was what they do together. I believe a few members messaged him and sent him some ammo. I would have but .22 isn't a caliber I usually shoot.

Some situations people just buy it because there's no other option and it's their passion.
 
I'm not buying any 22LR until prices get back to reality.

If more people did the same thing.. that would happen.

If you want to fix the problem, don't be a part of it. Quit buying 22
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Oh for goodness sakes, not this again, are you serious? Let's all just quit buyin 22, thatll show em!

We dont have any ammo to shoot but we taught those scalpers a lesson!

You can always tell who's sittin on a mountain of 22 in these threads.
 
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Queen_of_Thunder said:
Here is the strange thing. I pay 8 cents a round for CCI 22lr but pellets for an air gun are going for 12 cents each.
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I think you are doing it wrong if you are paying that much.

RussB said:
George, please realize that you are part of the problem by purchasing ammo at scalper prices!
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Purchasing ammo at scalper prices doesn't perpetuate the shortage. If everyone suddenly started refusing to buy from them, they would stop buying up all the ammo..... But the people who had been buying from them would still be looking to buy it in the stores, so it would still be coming off the shelves just as fast. Maybe a little tiny bit slower, since the scalpers are the ones with the time to wait in line, while many others pay scalper prices because they aren't able to wait in line, but the ammo would still be coming off the shelves as fast as it could get on the shelves.
The problem is that consumption is currently greater than production. Part of that is people are stockpiling, and that will end, part of the problem is people that are just getting into the sport, and that will subside somewhat, as not all newcomers will keep shooting very much, and part of the problem is that there are simply more people shooting on a permanent basis. The manufacturers have to figure out how much of this is permanent, and how much to permanently expand production, but this will end. There is no money to be made on their end by failing to meet demand, unless they have a truly premium product, and .22lr simply isn't.
 
Trent said:
I'm not buying any 22LR until prices get back to reality.

If more people did the same thing.. that would happen.

If you want to fix the problem, don't be a part of it. Quit buying 22.

Buy some cheap 7.62x54R, a cheap Mosin, and park the 22 for awhile. :)

(7.62x54R is 20 cents a round on AIM Surplus right now; and Mosin rifles are still fairly cheap. That's a lot of cheap shooting for a full power centerfire...)
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Not really. If you add shipping in, it comes up significantly.
 
Purchasing ammo at scalper prices doesn't perpetuate the shortage. If everyone suddenly started refusing to buy from them, they would stop buying up all the ammo..... But the people who had been buying from them would still be looking to buy it in the stores, so it would still be coming off the shelves just as fast. Maybe a little tiny bit slower, since the scalpers are the ones with the time to wait in line, while many others pay scalper prices because they aren't able to wait in line, but the ammo would still be coming off the shelves as fast as it could get on the shelves.
The problem is that consumption is currently greater than production. Part of that is people are stockpiling, and that will end, part of the problem is people that are just getting into the sport, and that will subside somewhat, as not all newcomers will keep shooting very much, and part of the problem is that there are simply more people shooting on a permanent basis. The manufacturers have to figure out how much of this is permanent, and how much to permanently expand production, but this will end. There is no money to be made on their end by failing to meet demand, unless they have a truly premium product, and .22lr simply isn't.
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What he said.
 
ChaoSS said:
Not really. If you add shipping in, it comes up significantly.
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Ahh! That's why you buy in bulk!

My last order with AIM was for 15,800 rounds of 7.62x54R.

All of the crates in the photo are full of sealed tins.

The UPS guy HATED me that day they showed up, until I offered to help. His truck suspension was riding on the bump stops I think. :)

FWIW I've never regretted buying bulk surplus comblock ammunition. I wish I'd bought more (and not shot it all) when I was younger. Back when AK ammo was 8 cents a round.

I bought the 7.62x54R when it was selling for $62 / 440 rds.

Surplus ammo, historically, ONLY goes up in price. So it's not a bad investment, either.


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