Peter M. Eick
Member
Well, "in a light hearted way", let the lawyers downgrade the 38 special from it full power wonderful self of the 1930's to the 1950's and at the same time upgrade the power of the 380 auto a hair with better bullets.
Go back and look up the ballistics for a 1930's 38 special round and you can find some rounds actually were close to 1000 fps with a 158 grn LRN. Today if you are lucky you can get some commercial (not boutique brands) ammo that will drive a 90 grn JHP to 1000 fps.
Now take some modern 38 special, for example federal 158 commercial ammo and run it down a little detective special and you might find you get 651 fps out of it. (yes real data).
So with modern ammo you can make a reasonable case that the 380 is on par with the 38 special.
Now lets take some 1950's Remington 38 special 158 grn LRN ammo and do the same experiment. We might find that we get 803 FPS. Or if we do 200 grn Rem ammo, we might find we get 718 FPS (yes this is real data).
Those are not the same beast as a 95 grn JHP at 1000 fps.
So lesson learned. If you want 380 to equal 38 buy modern (big commercial) ammo. If you want the 38 to blow away the 380, go find some old 1940's/1950's ammo and you will get the ballistics but in a LRN or Round Nose format.
If you really wanted more "knock out type power". One might change that old LRN to a LSWC and you might be impressed at what the 38 special could do.
Go back and look up the ballistics for a 1930's 38 special round and you can find some rounds actually were close to 1000 fps with a 158 grn LRN. Today if you are lucky you can get some commercial (not boutique brands) ammo that will drive a 90 grn JHP to 1000 fps.
Now take some modern 38 special, for example federal 158 commercial ammo and run it down a little detective special and you might find you get 651 fps out of it. (yes real data).
So with modern ammo you can make a reasonable case that the 380 is on par with the 38 special.
Now lets take some 1950's Remington 38 special 158 grn LRN ammo and do the same experiment. We might find that we get 803 FPS. Or if we do 200 grn Rem ammo, we might find we get 718 FPS (yes this is real data).
Those are not the same beast as a 95 grn JHP at 1000 fps.
So lesson learned. If you want 380 to equal 38 buy modern (big commercial) ammo. If you want the 38 to blow away the 380, go find some old 1940's/1950's ammo and you will get the ballistics but in a LRN or Round Nose format.
If you really wanted more "knock out type power". One might change that old LRN to a LSWC and you might be impressed at what the 38 special could do.