To me the appearance of G42 suggests that someone at Glock corp needs to shown the door.
Shot the Glock 42 yesterday
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Vodoun da Vinci
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It's not for you...it's for the rest of us who love Glocks but need something in this concept. Judging by the extremely brisk sales and the number of folks who *do* want a G42 you might want to consider the idea that maybe you don't quite have yer finger on the pulse of Glock engineering, development, marketing nor really understand what the majority wants and needs. Somebody (possibly the guy who needs to be "shown the door") at Glock understands this better than you do. I'm sure some find this statement to be offensive but this is not my intent and I apologize to any offended....someone at Glock knows how to assess and cater to the actual demand.
I bought one- I love it. Maybe not as much as my G26 but my Wife loves it better than our G26. I know everyone wanted a single stack 9mm but I promise I won't whine when they release that cause I don't want one or see the need.
The G42 is just what the doctor ordered for an awful lot of new Glock buyers.VooDoo
I suspect new owners of the G42 know it is a .380. They are lasting about 5 minutes on the shelves around here.
The interesting thing is, one of our local dealers has 3 SIG 938s in stock.That same dealer also has 8-10 of the SIG 238S in stock. One of the guys behind the counter told me they sell 10-15 of the P238s (.380) for every one of the Sig 938 (9mm) mainly because of recoil concerns with the typical buyers. Yesterday they sat out another 6-8 LCPs. I think maybe the .380 market is still on the upswing.
The interesting thing is, one of our local dealers has 3 SIG 938s in stock.That same dealer also has 8-10 of the SIG 238S in stock. One of the guys behind the counter told me they sell 10-15 of the P238s (.380) for every one of the Sig 938 (9mm) mainly because of recoil concerns with the typical buyers. Yesterday they sat out another 6-8 LCPs. I think maybe the .380 market is still on the upswing.
Vodoun da Vinci
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So we (many thousands of us) are buying the Glock 42's because we don't know what we are buying? 
Yer kidding, right? Trust me, please, we all know the Glock 42 is a small .380 single stack Glock/polymer pistol. No one of us is been bamboozled or confused about what we are buying - we are not delusional nor stupid and uninformed. This gun suits tens of thousands of potential or existing CCW candidates.
My Wife and I shot over 30 pistols this Summer looking for our preferred CCW guns and until the G42 she has not found a concealable, simple, accurate, and controllable pistols she could manage in rapid fire and get consistent accurate follow ups with. I'm cool (very cool) with my Beretta Px4 SC and Glock 26. She wanted a Glock that was thinner and recoiled less - she is a small person 5' and 110 lbs or so and simply will never manage a teeny, tiny, pistol in .380 or 9mm.
The G42 is perfect. We also have a small support group of CCW wannabees who are friends and family and are trying our pistols and looking for their own preferred CCW Soul Mates. And at least half of them are coming to the conclusion that the smallest pistol they can find in .45 or 9mm is simply too snappy for them to be comfortable with.
The G42 fills a niche and need that is valid and has been researched...we aren't all delusional or confused.
Please...
VooDoo
Yer kidding, right? Trust me, please, we all know the Glock 42 is a small .380 single stack Glock/polymer pistol. No one of us is been bamboozled or confused about what we are buying - we are not delusional nor stupid and uninformed. This gun suits tens of thousands of potential or existing CCW candidates.
My Wife and I shot over 30 pistols this Summer looking for our preferred CCW guns and until the G42 she has not found a concealable, simple, accurate, and controllable pistols she could manage in rapid fire and get consistent accurate follow ups with. I'm cool (very cool) with my Beretta Px4 SC and Glock 26. She wanted a Glock that was thinner and recoiled less - she is a small person 5' and 110 lbs or so and simply will never manage a teeny, tiny, pistol in .380 or 9mm.
The G42 is perfect. We also have a small support group of CCW wannabees who are friends and family and are trying our pistols and looking for their own preferred CCW Soul Mates. And at least half of them are coming to the conclusion that the smallest pistol they can find in .45 or 9mm is simply too snappy for them to be comfortable with.
The G42 fills a niche and need that is valid and has been researched...we aren't all delusional or confused.
Please...
VooDoo
I have to laugh at the G42 detractors implying that the Glock Corp. must have lost their collective minds when they came out with this "new" offering. A lighter, more reliable, up-to-date version of the Walther PPK? Heck, we all know THAT one was never popular or commercially successful...LOL.
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I have owned the G42 for about a week now and put several hundred rounds through it.It is very accurate at 7 yards.No jams. The .380 is not a 45ACP and it was not meant to be. It is a balanced cartridge though and more than adequate.Yes there will be dstractors but I know an officer who shot a criminal with a 357 and he escaped.The 45 is not a magic bullet.I have the Hornady Critical defense in mine. Also, I have some arthritis in my hand and the recoil is very minimal.
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I am looking to the G42 as the replacement for the usual J frame used by senior citizens. The coil spring in the J frame can be a little much for some shooters. If this G42 can handle all of the current defensive ammo then whats not to like ? If this one has an edge in lower recoil and easier trigger pull thats a win in my book.
Everything is subjective until you have to shoot someone with it. Then the recoil size and everything else goes out the window, and you are lucky if you remember what even happened. Find a gun that doesn't hurt your hand when you shoot it in a caliber that is sufficient to stop a threat from advancing, if the 380 is your choice, practice with it until you can get your shots in the chest from 25-50 feet away. Usually that's about the limit.
Don't worry about what other people tell you, read the facts, know that you are giving up a bit of power for a lighter load and deal with it. Just remember that you will both be moving, and practice shooting while moving forward backward and laterally. The people who attacked you won't be standing still "usually". They will be coming at you or running from you, that's the big difference with shooting at paper and a real life situation.
Will you freeze? Or will your body be able to push through and do the simple things that become difficult when you go into that state of tunnel vision and slowed reflexes from fear? No one can tell you until it happens, but if you prepare for it, your muscle memory will help. Everyone is different, some great students make lousy practitioners, It's like someone walking up to you and punching you in the face. Are you going to cover up and freeze, or fight back? everyone likes to think they will prevail in these matters, but many just can't follow through. Sometimes you won't find out ever unless something bad happens and you have no choice. Hopefully no one here has that happen, although we all know that isn't possible.
Don't worry about what other people tell you, read the facts, know that you are giving up a bit of power for a lighter load and deal with it. Just remember that you will both be moving, and practice shooting while moving forward backward and laterally. The people who attacked you won't be standing still "usually". They will be coming at you or running from you, that's the big difference with shooting at paper and a real life situation.
Will you freeze? Or will your body be able to push through and do the simple things that become difficult when you go into that state of tunnel vision and slowed reflexes from fear? No one can tell you until it happens, but if you prepare for it, your muscle memory will help. Everyone is different, some great students make lousy practitioners, It's like someone walking up to you and punching you in the face. Are you going to cover up and freeze, or fight back? everyone likes to think they will prevail in these matters, but many just can't follow through. Sometimes you won't find out ever unless something bad happens and you have no choice. Hopefully no one here has that happen, although we all know that isn't possible.
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#59 #60 Both have good points. I have one on hold will look at it tomorrow and I think it will be coming home with me.
revolvergeek
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One of the guys I work with bought one. Feels good in the hand, doesn't point high for me like most Glocks do, nice trigger and typical Glock sights. I don't feel the need to rush out and buy one, but I think that they are going to sell a whole bunch of them.
Vodoun da Vinci
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Thank You for the pix for comparison to the LCP!!
IMO, the gun is not impressive in the hand. It's a Glock and a small one at that with not much to compare it to. The proof is in the shooting and I found it extremely accurate and mild in recoil which is what I was primarily interested in...this is something my Wife can move and shoot with as well as conceal and it is simple and robust.
I did feel that the slide serrations could be a bit more "aggressive" but that's not a show stopper.
VooDoo
IMO, the gun is not impressive in the hand. It's a Glock and a small one at that with not much to compare it to. The proof is in the shooting and I found it extremely accurate and mild in recoil which is what I was primarily interested in...this is something my Wife can move and shoot with as well as conceal and it is simple and robust.
I did feel that the slide serrations could be a bit more "aggressive" but that's not a show stopper.
VooDoo
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I do not have our gun yet...I was hoping it would arrive today or Friday. I have only shot a production gun owned by another with range ammo and that was hardball. I have not completely evaluated the gun but I *will* do so when I get mine.
I probably won't shoot everything available as .380 ammunition locally is "you get what we have" and most places have maybe 2 boxes on the shelf if that. I'll order stuff online but once I get enough brass saved up I'll be hand loading all my ammunition as I do for the other calibers.
I tend to shoot flat nosed lead in almost all autos regardless of caliber and will likely load 90 - 100 flat nose lead for the .380 as I have tested this in the past and like it. If the G42 won't feed it the gun may not last long at my house...the ultimate test is how my Wife likes and functions with the gun but it'd be hard for me to believe it won't handle just about anything we throw at it. My G26 has never missed a lick and it shoots everything...I don't see the G42 being any different but if I find that is the case THR will be the first to know.
VooDoo
I probably won't shoot everything available as .380 ammunition locally is "you get what we have" and most places have maybe 2 boxes on the shelf if that. I'll order stuff online but once I get enough brass saved up I'll be hand loading all my ammunition as I do for the other calibers.
I tend to shoot flat nosed lead in almost all autos regardless of caliber and will likely load 90 - 100 flat nose lead for the .380 as I have tested this in the past and like it. If the G42 won't feed it the gun may not last long at my house...the ultimate test is how my Wife likes and functions with the gun but it'd be hard for me to believe it won't handle just about anything we throw at it. My G26 has never missed a lick and it shoots everything...I don't see the G42 being any different but if I find that is the case THR will be the first to know.
VooDoo
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Just left the LGS in Houston, TX. Saw a G42 there. First of all, I am impressed by the SPEED at which Glock got these to market, from it showing up on the cover of a G&A mag, to me being able to hold it in my bear claws. Springfield and S&W could take lessons from Glock on that part alone.
I have not shot it yet, but the trauma of shooting my LCP last week is still fresh in my mind. Either my hands have too much surface or the LCP has too little. In my hands, it is snappy and angry. But I can still do what I need to at 7 yards or less. The sight system on the Glock 42 reminded me of the 17 and the 22 I have in my possession. I held it in my hands, it was beautiful! I am looking forward to getting one.
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I have not shot it yet, but the trauma of shooting my LCP last week is still fresh in my mind. Either my hands have too much surface or the LCP has too little. In my hands, it is snappy and angry. But I can still do what I need to at 7 yards or less. The sight system on the Glock 42 reminded me of the 17 and the 22 I have in my possession. I held it in my hands, it was beautiful! I am looking forward to getting one.
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Shot my G42 some more today.
I've shot something over 250 rounds.
Mostly 90 grain FMJRN reloads.
Some factory FMJRN loads
Some Hornady 90 gr XTP reloads. The bullet expands well from the G42.
Some 90 grain lead reloads. The barrel leads up to much with this load, so I'll save it for my other 380 pistols.
All the ammo has been fine but early on the slide would not come back far enough to always eject the fired case, thereby jamming the gun.
That problem seems to have worked itself out in the last hundred or so rounds.
Another problem that's happened 6 or 7 times is the side of the bullet hitting the slide catch and locking the slide back.
The first time or two I thought my thumb may be hitting the slide catch, but it's the FMJRN bullet.
Today I ordered 300 Hornady XTP (conical) bullets to load for carry ammo.
Bottom line.
I like the gun. Which is surprising because I don't especially like Glocks.
Very accurate. It will easily empty a magazine in a one hole cloverleaf at 10 yards.
It's small and very light weight. It's replacing my Ruger LCP for pocket carry.
It has a far better trigger than any Glock I've shot. I have three Glocks and hate the triggers of every Glock I've shot..
The G42 is very comfortable to shoot. After a few magazines in the LCP I'm ready to quit. I can shoot the 42 all day. If the weather is decent I'll put another 150-200 rounds through the gun this week.
I like the gun well enough I've got another one on order. (that's never happened before with me and Glocks)
I've shot something over 250 rounds.
Mostly 90 grain FMJRN reloads.
Some factory FMJRN loads
Some Hornady 90 gr XTP reloads. The bullet expands well from the G42.
Some 90 grain lead reloads. The barrel leads up to much with this load, so I'll save it for my other 380 pistols.
All the ammo has been fine but early on the slide would not come back far enough to always eject the fired case, thereby jamming the gun.
That problem seems to have worked itself out in the last hundred or so rounds.
Another problem that's happened 6 or 7 times is the side of the bullet hitting the slide catch and locking the slide back.
The first time or two I thought my thumb may be hitting the slide catch, but it's the FMJRN bullet.
Today I ordered 300 Hornady XTP (conical) bullets to load for carry ammo.
Bottom line.
I like the gun. Which is surprising because I don't especially like Glocks.
Very accurate. It will easily empty a magazine in a one hole cloverleaf at 10 yards.
It's small and very light weight. It's replacing my Ruger LCP for pocket carry.
It has a far better trigger than any Glock I've shot. I have three Glocks and hate the triggers of every Glock I've shot..
The G42 is very comfortable to shoot. After a few magazines in the LCP I'm ready to quit. I can shoot the 42 all day. If the weather is decent I'll put another 150-200 rounds through the gun this week.
I like the gun well enough I've got another one on order. (that's never happened before with me and Glocks)
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Held one at the lgs yesterday, it feels good. Not too small like the lcp in my opinion. They sold all nine he had in a few hours. Think it will be popular.
Comparing the Glock 380 to an LCP is apples to oranges. They are similar in caliber only. There is really no point in a debate of who thinks a gun kicks and who does not. Very subjective.
The LCP is a pocket pistol. IN that respect it is very light and a bit snappy. The Glock 380 is a bit large for pocket pistol use unless you are a big person or have big pockets - no pistol shold be pocket carried without a holster. The Glock 380 is similar to some others on the market that are fine pistols but too large to pocket carry. I do not see anything revolutionary about it other than the fact that it is a Glock and they have a large following. They will sell like hotcakes because there are many people who love Glocks and may want a 380 or may prefer a lighter recoil than 9mm. They have a good reputation and I am not going to argue with folks who love them - such as Hickok45.
Myself - not a fan. I feel the same about CZ products - when I can find them - as Glock folks feel about their brand - to me there is no comparison but others may not agree. That said, I need something I can carry in a pocket holster in shorts and a tee shirt and the Glock is not it and I do not think it was designed to be. The LCP, Bodyguard 380, TCP and Kel Tek are about it in a reasonable price range. I have fired all and own an LCP.
My opinion - the LCP is the perfect pocket / purse pistol with respect to price and reliability and not something I would carry in any other way - OK I do not carry a purse. The Glock offering will appeal to fans of Glocks and the 380 cartridge and, as has been expressed, those who find the 9mm too much to cope with. I do not like recoil but frankly the LCP with a $11 Hogue grip is very manageable to me and the newer ones have a better trigger.
Fit the gun to the purpose and pick your poison.
The LCP is a pocket pistol. IN that respect it is very light and a bit snappy. The Glock 380 is a bit large for pocket pistol use unless you are a big person or have big pockets - no pistol shold be pocket carried without a holster. The Glock 380 is similar to some others on the market that are fine pistols but too large to pocket carry. I do not see anything revolutionary about it other than the fact that it is a Glock and they have a large following. They will sell like hotcakes because there are many people who love Glocks and may want a 380 or may prefer a lighter recoil than 9mm. They have a good reputation and I am not going to argue with folks who love them - such as Hickok45.
Myself - not a fan. I feel the same about CZ products - when I can find them - as Glock folks feel about their brand - to me there is no comparison but others may not agree. That said, I need something I can carry in a pocket holster in shorts and a tee shirt and the Glock is not it and I do not think it was designed to be. The LCP, Bodyguard 380, TCP and Kel Tek are about it in a reasonable price range. I have fired all and own an LCP.
My opinion - the LCP is the perfect pocket / purse pistol with respect to price and reliability and not something I would carry in any other way - OK I do not carry a purse. The Glock offering will appeal to fans of Glocks and the 380 cartridge and, as has been expressed, those who find the 9mm too much to cope with. I do not like recoil but frankly the LCP with a $11 Hogue grip is very manageable to me and the newer ones have a better trigger.
Fit the gun to the purpose and pick your poison.
Interesting thread.
I remember the days pre polymer, pre Glock when the smallest gun on my carry permit was a Colt series 70 combat commander worked over by Jim Hoag and blessed as 'good enough' by Jeff Cooper.
.45 ACP was king.
Of course, with the advent of wonder 9s in the late 1980s and Mr. Cooper giving birth to the .40, ammunition has evolved.
I had a neat little Walther PPK back then. Still carried my .45 auto, but as most of you know, being gun collectors, reloaders and shooters, we buy guns......just because.
The fact is ammunition and ballistics have improved.
Today my carry guns are G29, G27, G30, G26. In that order. My BUG is a J frame, hammerless.
As the father of 5 adult kids much of my collection has be pilfered (haha) to them over the years.
Yes, I bought a G42. Still in the 10 day wait here in California. Paid $419 for it.
Yes that's 100 bucks over LEO price and over reported list price, but in my opinion the worse thing that can happen if I don't like it is I sell it and buy something else. I won't be carrying it concealed. I have guns for that job already.
I'll probably have to hide it from my 2 daughters. I know they fought over a Glock 19 and dad had to buy them one each. I am not much good at picking out shoes for females so this takes me off the hook.
My biggest decision is should I start reloading .380 ? Maybe.
I like the lightness of the 42. Really light. I am also familiar and comfortable with the sight picture. Not like looking down a groove on the top of a slide. More like a mini G17. Easy to palm, would fit in a big pocket (in a proper holster) in a pinch. I wouldn't sweat swimming with it or it being underwater. Since it's a Glock, we know it will run dirty and wet.
Be well
Bob
I remember the days pre polymer, pre Glock when the smallest gun on my carry permit was a Colt series 70 combat commander worked over by Jim Hoag and blessed as 'good enough' by Jeff Cooper.
.45 ACP was king.
Of course, with the advent of wonder 9s in the late 1980s and Mr. Cooper giving birth to the .40, ammunition has evolved.
I had a neat little Walther PPK back then. Still carried my .45 auto, but as most of you know, being gun collectors, reloaders and shooters, we buy guns......just because.
The fact is ammunition and ballistics have improved.
Today my carry guns are G29, G27, G30, G26. In that order. My BUG is a J frame, hammerless.
As the father of 5 adult kids much of my collection has be pilfered (haha) to them over the years.
Yes, I bought a G42. Still in the 10 day wait here in California. Paid $419 for it.
Yes that's 100 bucks over LEO price and over reported list price, but in my opinion the worse thing that can happen if I don't like it is I sell it and buy something else. I won't be carrying it concealed. I have guns for that job already.
I'll probably have to hide it from my 2 daughters. I know they fought over a Glock 19 and dad had to buy them one each.
I am not much good at picking out shoes for females so this takes me off the hook.My biggest decision is should I start reloading .380 ? Maybe.
I like the lightness of the 42. Really light. I am also familiar and comfortable with the sight picture. Not like looking down a groove on the top of a slide. More like a mini G17. Easy to palm, would fit in a big pocket (in a proper holster) in a pinch. I wouldn't sweat swimming with it or it being underwater. Since it's a Glock, we know it will run dirty and wet.
Be well
Bob
Vodoun da Vinci
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Thanks for your comments. I especially like hearing from folks who have bought one and shot it and commented. Like you, I had no use for a Glock until last Summer I shot SO many handguns I can barely remember them all looking for stuff that stood out as inherently accurate, small enough to be carried concealed, and simple in my hands. 2 pistols came home that Summer - A Beretta Px4 subcompact and a Glock 26.
I shot a G42 when the LGS got one and pre paid for one of the next 10 coming and that says a lot for me. 2 Glocks when 7 months ago I had no use for them.
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