Something I am overlooking?

Not missing a thing. For me it comes down personal preferences when it comes to choosing one manufacturer or one design over another. Ergonomics also play part in my determining what feels right in my hands. In my case most Glocks are not a good fit; something along the lines of an M1911, Browning Hi-Power, or a SIG P229 would make for a much better fit with my wants and needs.

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It's a common attitude that people of limited experience have.

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That is the core of it. The more experience people have with a wide variety of guns, the harder it is to pick one best. Those with limited experience often quickly pick one out as the best--usually the brand they bought. As a lot of Glocks are sold, they have a large customer base and a lot of fans.

I went through a variety of Springfield XD/XDM, Sig Sauer, Walther, Ruger, and even a Caracal over the years and never tried a Glock. I can't tell you why, really, other than they just had no appeal to me. But my last two purchases have been a Glock 19 Gen 4 (9mm) and a Glock 21 Gen 4 (45 ACP). And I really don't know now why I didn't give them a chance. The 19 is exceptionally comfortable and accurate for a compact 15+1 pistol. I carry it in an IWB Sticky Holster and it rides easily all day. It's still my #2 carry piece behind my after-recall Springfield XDs .45, but it's working its way into a tie, I think. The Glock 21 is maybe the softest shooting hi-cap .45 striker-fired polymer pistol I've ever shot and incredibly accurate. It's replaced my Sig C3 1911 as my home defense weapon. And as was mentioned earlier, I'm impressed by the huge range of after market sights, trigger modifications, and other options, most of which are within the normal non-fumble-fingered gun owner's ability to install. I don't think they're necessarily superior to others, but at least the equal of the others I named that I've owned, especially in terms of reliability out of the box. I'd hold off on the newly released Glock 42 .380, though. I'm seeing a lot of issues with those on the various forums I'm on. Probably need to wait for them to work out the kinks.

Glock does beat the other brands in caliber selection.

Glock does beat the other brands in caliber selection.

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Cause everyone wants a GAP?






People defend what they spent their hard earned money on or cry the loudest when it goes bad.. You'll see it across all forums of various interests/hobbies.

Lol excluding the gap they still have a better selection than the xd, smith and Wesson, sig, ruger, or hk.

I bought my first G17 in 1988. I still have it. If it was the only gun I had I'd be perfectly happy. But, I have other service-sized guns and if you asked me to choose between them I don't think I could do it. When they are in my hand, each one of them is the best and I would be happy with any of them if limited to one. Thank God I live in a place where I don't have to make that choice.

It's not about what's perfect, it's about what makes you happy.

I too share your opinion. I own guns by Glock, Ruger, S&W, Walther, Beretta, CZ, and SIG. All are reliable.

The position that Glocks are good, reliable, tested guns is pretty much not debatable.

The position that Glocks are somehow better than everything else is just hype IMHO.

My advice to others is usually that if they want a new gun - don't buy a Glock. S&W and Ruger make guns that are just as good for less money. If you're willing to buy used, there are some REALLY good deals on police trade-in Glock 22's out there and I often recommend that they look there.

Lol excluding the gap they still have a better selection than the xd, smith and Wesson, sig, ruger, or hk.

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With the exception of the XD you specifically pointed out. The other manufactures have far more caliber choices among their product lines as they don't just make poly pistols..

Not in semi autos.

farmer319,

When it comes to the comparison of Glocks to other pistols the word inferior should only by used to describe the minds of the people you described.

Glock is a good reliable gun, nothing more, nothing less.

Any Glock will outshoot any Ruger any time.
And vice versa.

They're all good (except Hi-Standards. Yuk!)

I have Glock, Sig, HK, Ruger & DW autos. S&W revolvers. As a fan of the 10mm, I have found that there is no better platform than the glock. Have the 20 & 29. Also have a 1911 DW. The DW CBOB 10MM holds fewer rounds, cost twice as much, & weighs more than either glock. Can't get an HK or Sig in 10mm (without extensive custom work). I've never had any reliability issues with any of my firearms. Basic maintenance & upkeep goes a long way. I also refuse to buy "cheap" guns. Not inexpensive. There is a difference. Peoples fascination with relying on a Hipoint, Jimenez, Davis, Cobra or any other of the cheap, shoddy, pot metal builds is beyond me. I get that money is an issue, you can always find decent used guns for just a little more $$, just have to look. 1 thing that I dislike about the Springfield XD is the higher bore axis. Doesn't really work for me. I shoot all 12 of my Glocks better than my HK & Sigs that all cost significantly more.

Glocks aren't perfect and I'm not a fanboy for the brand. When I was looking for a carry pistol, I looked at a lot of things and ended up with a Glock...

Here's why I found the Glock to be the better choice vs the competition for me...

1. Reliability - Proven in the field for years. You can say the same for the Beretta and SIG in terms of track record over many years.
2. Accuracy - Proven again. You can say the same for the FNS, XD, Beretta, M&P, and Sig.
3. Capacity - power/weight ratio - Glock is great here, same can be said for the Beretta and SIG in terms of ability to go to higher capacity, i.e. 32 Round mags if needed. Not sure about FNS, XD, M&P. Glock appeared to be more streamlined and easier to carry vs the competition.
4. Simplicity of Design - I think most people overlook this. Glock is the simplest of all the competition mentioned. Fewer parts = less to fail. You can completely detail strip a Glock with a single punch. Sig is comparable, but the other designs, not so much.
5. Availability/Cost of Parts - Glock wins here. Very few parts and very cheap to acquire.
6. Shootability - The Glock Trigger can be easily modified to get what you want. Not perfect, but pretty damn good. Trigger reset is very short. Glock is not the best in terms of ergonomics, but can be improved with an adapter. Given the other advantages, I can live with ergonomics that are not as good.
7. Designed for Reactive Shooting - nothing to think about with the Glock, just draw, point and fire. Beats the external safety designs in this regard and has a better trigger than the hammer fired DAO designs. No need to think about decocking in a high stress scenario.

These were the criteria I used to make my choice. YMMV. I think many of us who have chosen the Glock for serious business (not range fun) have gone through a similar thought process, which may explain some of why they are so popular. Adoption by so many police agencies is another.

I don't think the other choices are inferior to the Glock, at least not necessarily and often not on a strictly quality level. But to me, the quality, ease of use, the overall simplicity and how easily you can break the entire gun down to the smallest part by yourself, nearly blindfolded, it's reliability and relatively inexpensive cost is what I think give it the advantage. It's got a nice low bore axis and I find the accuracy of the Glock to be very good, any who argue that generally aren't as familiar with the Glock trigger system as they should be. I'll say this, it might be easier to shoot other guns more accurately for some shooters more familiar with other platforms, but the Glock doesn't lack in the accuracy dept. as long as you know how to shoot one.

A LEO friend of mine tells me that Glocks are the chosen weapon of gang-bangers and drug dealers. Mind you, the gun may say, "S&W" or "Springfield" on the slide, but it's "my Glock." Not "my gun" but "my Glock."

He has no idea why, other than they may think that's what all autoloaders are called. You know, there are revolvers then there are Glocks...

To get back to the original post, to my thinking the internet displays far more Glock fanboys than fans of any other single maker solely due to the fact that the Glock and the internet came of age pretty much at the same time -- when the Glock was becoming popular among younger folks, first time gun-buyers, etc., the same folks were the first to explore the internet.

It was some time later than us old guys (who grew up favoring S&W revolvers and 1911s) discovered all these silly internet gun forums. (And have since been attempting fruitlessly to bring the internet world back in balance.)

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Glock does beat the other brands in caliber selection.

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Ah, no ... this title would probably have to go to ... (gasp) Taurus. At least until Glock does .22 LR, .25 and .32 ACP (finally a Glock in .380), and if you stray away from autoloaders, .410, .45 LC, .38 SPL, .357 MAG, .41 MAG, 44 SPL/.44 MAG, .460, .50; but then the umbrella groups that own brands (EAA, IWI come to mind) with calibers such as .41 AE, .50 AE, .50 BMG, etc...

Adoption by so many police agencies is another.

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You really should read the book mentioned in this thread.. (Post #8)
You will find that LEO weapon selection has little to do with the quality of the gun itself and more to do with budgets, etc...

I think Gaston realized from the beginning that if he could get the LEO market to buy mass quantities then the civilian market would follow like lemmings. And he was RIGHT!

tarosean said:

You really should read the book mentioned in this thread.. (Post #8)
You will find that LEO weapon selection has little to do with the quality of the gun itself and more to do with budgets, etc...

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I think it's a mixture of quality and budget. Happy median of the two gets the contract.

I once drank the Block koolaid by trading for a G26. Like one poster already said I've handled staple guns with better triggers. Are they reliable? Yes. Are they durable? Yes. Do the triggers suck? Yes. There are plenty of other choices that are also durable, reliable, accurate, and have far better triggers. Why limit oneself to please the fanboys?