35,000,000 rounds of .22LR on backorder...

From their 13Dec13 Update Email:

AMMUNITION UPDATE. The CMP has been notified by ammunition manufacturers and distributors to expect price increases and significant delivery delays for all calibers of ammunition, especially for .22 rimfire. The price increases and delays apply to orders we have already placed with the manufacturers. Prior to 2013 CMP received deliveries of truckloads of ammo within a few weeks of placing orders. We are now being advised, as in the case of Aguila .22, that it may take several years to receive all of the 35,000,000 rounds of Aguila ammo we have on order.

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take several years to receive all of the 35,000,000 rounds of Aguila ammo we have on order.

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Who's the hoarder now?

That just adds to the prices being asked at gun shows and flea markets

That is a big number. Hard to digest, but perhaps true. Who knows today? I don't even trust my mortgage company. Even the mailman seems to be acting strangely lately. Not to mention the UPS and Fedex guys.

Hah... maybe I need to put all of my Aguila SSS on GB NOW!!

I hope the demand stays this high, the ammo companies build extra plants to accommodate, and the shooting sports stays stronger in the future. It would be nice to see this kind of interest, active shooting, and sales in the future, as status quo.

Why haven't the ammunition manufacturers built additional plants solely for making .22LR ammunition?

It has been literally years since I have seen a box of .22LR on a shelf at a retail store.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Aquila Ammunition as a Whole, is on Allocation.

The new importer and distributor for Aquila Ammunition is Texas Armament & Technologies, as of October 2013.

Centurion Ordinance is not longer the importer of Aquila Products.

Texas Armament & Technologies is allocating product as they receive.

Why haven't the ammunition manufacturers built additional plants solely for making .22LR ammunition?

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Several really in-depth threads have gone over that question thoroughly.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=743022
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=742390

Long and short of it? It takes years to establish a new manufacturing facitliy from scratch, and it takes hundreds of millions of dollars. Even if the manufacturers really, really WANT to have more production capacity, they have to make sure that when they ramp up to meet THIS demand, and bring that new capacity on-line in 2015, that the demand will actually continue to be so great for the 10+ years it will take them to pay off the massive investment.

If they step in to fill the demand in 2015, and that new capacity adds to an already softening demand in the market, and the bottom falls out by 2016 or 2017...or heck, by 2020! They're likely to go bankrupt sitting on a half-a-billion dollar (or whatever) investment that they can't pay for.

Yeah, they'll pay it off in 10 years if they can sell each round of .22 LR for $0.10. But what about when the panic has started to calm down, and when three other major manufacturers have brought new lines on, and now each round is selling for $0.03, and they're hardly covering their TAXES?

It isn't a decision to take lightly. These folks are trying to figure out how to work smartly over the course of decades.

Rembrandt said:

From the CMP website....

"....as in the case of Aguila .22, that it may take several years to receive all of the 35,000,000 rounds of Aguila ammo we have on order.

Currently sold out and not accepting any additional orders. Deliveries for existing orders are uncertain. Previous distributor no longer in business. CMP in discussion with new Aguila distributor. Will update status of existing customer and club orders when more information is available."

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How could/did the distributor go out of business when there is a huge demand out there? It just seems strange that the distributor went out of business when there are still shortages 14 months later.

cole distributing seems to be defunct now. at least their web site is.

35M is an old number...last count was 9000 cases of 5000 each for a total of 45,000,000 rounds. These orders are a year old though. I've been getting a steady diet of CCI 500 - 1000 at a time. I do have 2 cases on order through the CMP and 1 through MIDWAY though. But the CMP orders are a year old and MIDWAY says Nov 2014. Before you call me a hoarder, I shoot 1500-2000 rounds/year and almost ran out last year...NEVER AGAIN.

One company backlog with a manufacture is 45 million rounds just think what the ohers have on back log.

I'll just wait it out.

Shoot your pellet gun.

Shoot your .223 and 9mm.

Shoot with a purpose other than to just expend ammo.

I get very little out of shooting "a whole brick" of .22 at a single setting.

Practice your marksmanship skills instead of your magazine-loading and trigger-pulling skills.

Instead of grandpa just "treating the kids" to a brick of .22 LR, maybe grandpa should be out there grading their marksmanship. Less ammo would be wasted, and bad habits won't become ingrained.

It will take a few weekends of hitting estate sales to come up with 35,000,000 rounds of 22LR.

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It will take a few weekends of hitting estate sales to come up with 35,000,000 rounds of 22LR.

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That's a LOT of estate sales...

That's not all that many rounds compared to the number of shooters in this country.

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That's not all that many rounds compared to the number of shooters in this country.

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Thirty-five MILLION rounds... not "all that many"???

LeonCarr said:

It has been literally years since I have seen a box of .22LR on a shelf at a retail store.

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I was in a LGS yesterday, and while I didn't get any (I had a decent supply), Remington Thunderbolt (not the best, but it's .22) was selling for $30 for a brick of 500, albeit with a limit of one box.

As an aside, this particular LGS has suspended online sales until supplies get a bit more steady, which we locals do appreciate.

Seeing this made me feel somewhat optimistic actually - I was thinking that the eventual steady state would be $30 per brick on .22, and if it's already back as low as $30 for 500, then $22-25 per brick might be realistic in the longer term).

Not all that many:



And that's "normal sales." Not "2013 crazy panic demand sales." Who knows that that big yellow area really looks like for last year? 3 billion? 3.5 billion? More than "a lot," I think we can say for certain.

Shoot with a purpose other than to just expend ammo.

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I do I shoot 3 or 4 different leagues and still burn up to 2000 rds/year

They say it will take years to get it all, did they say how many years it would take to SELL it all?

Awww, heck. Scratch that. This site says the following:

The industry as a whole (all manufacturers combined) is setup to produce 4,200,000,000 (4.2 Billions) .22 LR annually. That is running all the machines, full capacity all the time, all manufacturers together.

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Considering that we'd have to agree 99.9% of what was made in 2013 was sold, or so would suggest all the bare shelves, the chart for last year would look more like this: