Got my Remington R51 today

^^^ And the primer is ignited by a firing pin struck by an internal hammer. (which is what he may have been asking).

Phantom Captain

Nice comparison photos. Looking forward to your range report. And yes I agree with everyone else that your PPKs and Mak look great with their blued finish and wood grips.

Can you answer the long-running argument about whether the trigger pivots on a pin or slides like a 1911 or does some other gyration we haven't thought of yet?

Comparing the r-1 to that ppk/s and Makarov makes it look ugly and cheap. My opinion!

This is the best thread I've seen promoting the PPK and the Makarov in quite a while!

Looks great, thanks for the size comparisons, gives me a better idea of how big it is than descriptions. How much did you pay for it? I saw another thread where the guy gave like $357 + tax for his. At that price I'd pick one up as soon as I saw it just to try it out.

LOL . . . . . Fishbed77....


Edited to add, . . . the PPK and Mak are not just pistols, but history. We'll see if the R51 even gets to that status. As of now, it is a tool. Nothing more.

Yo Captain,

Thanks for the pics. Am well acquainted with Makarov PMs, PPs, and PPKs. Your pictures really give a good impression of comparative size.

Look forward to reading your range report, if it shoots as accurately as a PPK and Makarov PM, it will be a hot seller.

Will likely pick one up, gotta love that Art Deco styling.

Looks good - same profile as a Makarov but a bit thinner. I have a Makarov myself and its always felt fine but a bit thick for what it is.

I will admit that from the profile view the R-51 doesn't look quite as "elegant" as the Mak though.

Phantom Captain,

Thanks for the great pics. Reliabilty, caliber, size, and weight are what matter to me. If the R51 is similar to the PPK and Mak in reliability, size, and weight I can accept matte finishes and gaps because it is a 9mmPara amongst relatively puny .380s and 9mmLites. I second Sam1911's request, please tell us how the trigger moves. I hope the R51 works great for you and your really enjoy it. Thanks again.

That pistol would look really sharp with checkered wood grips.

I need one!

Definitely don't like that gap..

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It seems to me that, because of the pivoting grip safety, you need a bit of free play between the grip safety and the side panels or else it might bind up. Phantom Captain, is the gap on the left actually bigger than the gap on the right, or is it just a case where, due to the angle, you could see light through the left gap but not the right?

I am running through a mix of envy, jealousy, and excitement that they are finally arriving in the stores. Hopefully they will get to SC soon.

Another blackmark on my "He-Man 9mm-haters" club membership...

I have a feeling that the GF will want one, so I guess I should buy one and wring it out completely, in anticipation of the request. I sure hope Jeff Cooper doesn't know about this.

Sorry, Col. Cooper, wherever in heaven you are...

Kosh75287 said:

I have a feeling that the GF will want one, so I guess I should buy one and wring it out completely, in anticipation of the request. I sure hope Jeff Cooper doesn't know about this.

Sorry, Col. Cooper, wherever in heaven you are...

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I wouldn't worry too much about the Colonel's scorn when you eventually meet-up with him. I am sure after meeting all those souls dispatched to Heaven with a single 9mm hit he is a little more open-minded.

That thunder you hear on occasion is just the good Colonel enjoying his retirement.

mitlov What you see are not grip panels but the aluminum frame .The side panels are small insert on the side well away from the grip safety . The grip safety never comes out far enough to hang up on anything.

In that case the gap seems excessive (or the safety lever narrower than needed, rather). No matter, it's not like we're paying for a fitted 1911 or anything. As much as I think the gun deserves to be made to a high standard, this is a budget model, so fit/finish expectations are calibrated thusly (I will be thinking about 'what could have been' from the moment I pick one up, though )

Would you mind posting some pictures of the slide/frame innards with the locking piece removed when you get the chance?

Thanks,
TCB

I shot a friend's R51 today, it was fantastic. As soon as I get one my Kahr P9 is for sale.

Picked mine up yesterday as well. I can confirm that the trigger pivots. Interestingly, my manual shows the pistol with a solid trigger, which I think looks better.
The gap on either side of the grip safety is approximately .015" but there is lateral play on the safety.
Take down is very straight forward if you read the instruction manual.
Work is going to keep me from the range till next weekend, but I can offer the following impressions:
Hits
- the length of the grip offers my medium hands full purchase area for all three fingers with little to no room to spare. The mags do not have extensions.
- the grip safety is easily, but not to easily actuated. Safety travel is shorter than I had anticipated.
- grip shape and trigger guard relief offer a very natural high grip.
- without a guage, I would estimate the trigger pull of my example at 5-6 lbs. Not much take up or creep...I quite like it.
- the sights are great. Standard 3 dot pattern, but the rear sight is more than aesthetics. The "no snag" radius also offers a semi hooded shadowing on the face of the rear sight - further enhancing contrast.
- being at least 1/4" thinner than my P6, this thing is going to be an absolute breeze to carry IWB
Misses
- while fit seems ok, finish seems very pedestrian
- grip inserts could use a little swell. As soon as VZ has something available, I'm there...

Thats about all I can add for now. i will add to the range reports as soon as I am able.

Goju,

I was under the impression Remington was going to offer a larger set of grip inserts. Any mention of it in the literature with the pistol?