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Hondo 60

Hondo 60

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I like using Lil Gun for my 32 H&R mag - and I'm out!
I can't justify a big onliine purchase right now, so I gotta use what I got.

I have 2400 & would like to try it, but can't find data.
I have Alliant's downloadable manual, as well as Speer, Hornady, Lee & the OneBook, OneCaliber deal.

There's data for Herco2400, but I'm concerned that the 2400 formula may have changed since Alliant bought 'em out.

I cast my own bullets & have a 90 gr tumble lube SWC mold.

While I AM lookin for data, I want published data please.

Whatcha got & where did ya get it? - Please & Thank You :D
 
Hmmm... Will look at the library when I get home.

I don't load it, but if data exists, I'll do my best to find it.

RC ?????? Walkies ? Wil ?
 
I wouldn't be afraid to try 2400, data or no data. I bet an enterprising and smart fellow like yourself could interpolate a good start charge. I may have enough in the bottom of my one pound can to try something. I have some Hornady 90 Gr SWCs as well.
 
Hondo 60, I have a old 1995 Hercules reloaders guide and it list a 90 lwc with a max of 6.2gr of 2400, using a fed 100 primer. I could take a pic of the page and send it to you if you pm me with a phone number or email. Of course reduce that load 10% to start.

Sorry, i overlooked your comment on the Herco 2400 data.
 
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I have loaded both old and new 2400. I have not found enough difference for me to tell. I'd try the 2400 with the old data, start low and be safe.
FWIW I've only used it in 357.
 
I have an old alliant 2002 data sheet. It shows 6.2 as the max for a 90 grain LWC in .32 H&R Mag. I would have no problem starting well below that and working up.
 
When the "NEW" 2400 hit the market there was a fellow over on Castboolits who picked up a pound of the old and then did some pretty extensive testing with each to see what if anything could be determines as "DIFFERENT". From what I gathered both in reading his post and in shooting notes back and forth, there wasn't much difference in the two. Certainly not enough to not be able to use the older data starting loads and working up. About the only thing he COULD say would be no more than the differnces from one lot to another.
 
Herco and 2400 are two distinctly different powders...

.32 H&R Mag

Bullet WT, Primer, OAL
90 LWC Fed. 100 1.18

Powder, Charge, Velocity, Pressure PSI x1000
Bullseye 3.3gr 1,060 19.6
Red Dot 3.1gr 1,020 20.0
Green Dot 3.3gr 1,050 20.4
Unique 3.7gr 1,110 20.3
Herco 4.0gr 1,070 20.4
Blue Dot 5.1gr 1,150 20.3
2400 6.2gr 1,150 20.4

Data from the 2004 Alliant manual available below:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=182147&d=1364769070
 
The data I saw was Herco2400.
As in back when the Hercules Powder Co existed.

Yes, I know Herco & Herco2400 are different powders.
 
There is no such thing as "Herco2400"...The company used to be 'Hercules', and among many other powders, they made Herco and 2400...

I am trying to keep people from misunderstanding and maybe using 2400 data to load Herco powder...

A listed 2400 max charge of Herco in a .32 Mag might be a tad 'startling' to say the least...
 
The only data I found is from a Alliant pamplet Reloader guide; For Alliant 2400 powder using a 90 grain LWC bullet, Fed small pistol primers, and a OAL of 1.180 out of a 5 inch barreled revolver, they used a max charge of 6.2 grains (Alliant 2400) with a velocity of 1.150 fps. having 20,400 psi. I'm sorry if this data doesn't exactly match the bullet you want to use, but may be close enough to be of some use to give a starting point as to run some test loads with your bullet of choice. LM
 
Walkalong (or anyone else experienced with 2400), isn't the beauty of 2400 the fact that it can be reduced safely unlike some magnum powders? If that's the case, couldn't Hondo just take either the 90 or 100gr LWC data that's published and reduced it to say 12% of the max charge and work up, being careful and checking for squibs? I ask because I have no personal experience with 2400 but I thought it is supposed to work fairly well with reduced loads.
 
This from 1986 RCBS #1 cast bullet manual.

.32 H&R Mag.
H&R Model 504 test gun

RCBS mold #32-098 LSWC bullet. = 98 grain. .314" dia.
CCI Mag primer.

Hercules 2400 powder.
Start = 6.9
Max = 7.7
This data will work as well with your 90 grain cast bullets.
But I'd skip the mag primer part. It's not needed with 2400.

There is no noticeable difference between Hercules & Alliant 2400 powder that I could ever notice.
It was a seamless transition, and no load data for any of the powders was changed.

rc
 
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