CNN Corrects Error on Number of School Shootings, Actually 80% LESS

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/school-shootings-cnn-number/index.html

You have to give them credit for correcting a false number they distributed. CNN Corrects Error on Number of School Shootings, Actually 80% LESS

(CNN) -- After Tuesday's shooting at an Oregon high school, many media outlets, including CNN, reported that there have been 74 school shootings in the past 18 months.

...The statistic came from a group called Everytown for Gun Safety, an umbrella group started by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a passionate and public advocate of gun control.

...So on Wednesday, CNN took a closer look at the list, delving into the circumstances of each incident Everytown included.

...CNN determined that 15 of the incidents Everytown included were situations similar to the violence in Oregon -- a minor or adult actively shooting inside or near a school. That works out to about one shooting every five weeks.

Some of the other incidents on Everytown's list included personal arguments, accidents and alleged gang activities and drug deals.
 
I'll bet it was very painful for them not to be able to manipulate this story like they manipulate all the other gun stories.
 
Others happly report the large number

http://america.aljazeera.com/blogs/scrutineer/2014/6/10/school-shootings74andstillcounting.html

Aljazeera America is happily reporting the larger number. If you read down past the headline you get this:
According to Everytown for Gun Safety, a gun control advocacy group, which defines a school shooting as “assaults, homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings” that happen “inside a school building or on school or campus grounds,”
Their front page just says 74 and counting. No agenda here, move along.
 
So we have another figure to debunk. How? I doesn't help that we know.
 
you mean those opposing our constitutional rights lied? imagine that....
 
It's worthwhile to contact each TV station and network and place a quote with the actual information.

In the past, I have had TV stations actually correct their web site stories with the correct data if even 1 or 2 people write them.

Please contact 1 station in your area. I will contact my Atlanta area stations with the corrected information.

Call your station and ask for the web news producer or the TV news assignment desk producer, or the news writer/reporter who wrote the story. These are the people that actually do the work in the TV news room.
 
One break down and analysis: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...nce-newtown-immediately-debunked/#more-323747

No one is required to be truthful in relating how much firearms are destroying our schools, ok? Do whatever it takes to get the message across, the ends justifies the means.

This also goes to the use of the term "mass" as we have seen it used recently. I'm certainly not going to attempt a numerical definition, but the media seems to think it's as low as three. They have even used it in articles with only one victim and the shooter as the casualties. That's two.

So, given the current misuse of terms, expect the media to call any discharge of a firearm within 1000 yards a "mass school shooting." It's really no different than the antigunners calling a bunch of gangsta twenty somethings in a gun fight "children," and add their body count to the total number killed. The ends justifies the means - which means they will lie thru their teeth to force their goal on us.

I wouldn't worry too much about "getting the word out" in an correction - frankly, a lot of people don't much believe what the mainstream press says, and those who repeat it are either naive or biased themself. Your best action is to be polite and retort that the number is highly distorted, they shouldn't trust the press.
 
Well, at least they didn't invite on anyone to speculate causality between school shootings and.black holes, or the Bermuda triangle.
 
wow we congratulate the liberal media for correcting their errors in reporting once they realized that they couldnt continue their lie?
 
"This also goes to the use of the term "mass" as we have seen it used recently. I'm certainly not going to attempt a numerical definition, but the media seems to think it's as low as three. They have even used it in articles with only one victim and the shooter as the casualties. That's two. "

quoted from Tirod.

I was wondering also if there was a way to quantify the term "mass".

When I think of mass killing, Stalin pops in my head.
 
Just a guess but I'm going to say that the correction doesn't matter much since most antis will not see CNN's correction or they'll just disregard it and keep regurgitating the erroneous "fact".
Although I hope my guess is wrong.
 
The first figure is what people will remember, and a great many of the ones who were paying attention then will not be on the correction, so I give them very little credit.

Actually, giving out wrong info when everyone is watching, then giving a correction a few days later when they are not, is a tactic used by some of the media, so any credit has to be tee tiny.

But, on the off chance they are really trying to get the correct word out to all those who were influenced by improper reporting, OK, kudos, I guess. Kind of.

I'd be more impressed if they got it right in the first place.
 
Just a guess but I'm going to say that the correction doesn't matter much since most antis will not see CNN's correction or they'll just disregard it and keep regurgitating the erroneous "fact".
Although I hope my guess is wrong.
Yep. :)
 
Bezoar said:
wow we congratulate the liberal media for correcting their errors in reporting once they realized that they couldnt continue their lie?
Given the way in which the media has historically treated guns, gun owners, and gun rights supporters, yes. We congratulate them for correcting one part of The Big Lie in the hopes of encouraging them to honestly report about us in the future. Will it work? Maybe, but probably not in the short run.

The other part of this is that we should all download the story, turn it into pdfs and store it away, just in case we ever need to use it for "impeachment evidence." :scrutiny:
 
I'd be more impressed if they got it right in the first place.

If you haven't noticed, fact checking and editing is essentially a thing of the past with regards to CNN.

We may may consider it to be manipulative bias (and a lot of it is), but it's also a reflection of the declining condition of traditional media as a whole. They just don't have the budgets they once had to staff their organizations with facts-checkers and editors anymore.

The state of newspapers is even worse.
 
The attacks on CNN have begun. HuffPo has already dragged out a graving father of an off-campus gang-related stray bullet victim on his way home from school who says "how dare they not count my son".

In other words, pure emotion over logic.

Mike
 
The first day I heard that bogus stat I started looking into it. It was apparent when I cross referenced just the first three cases that the group was padding their numbers. I looked up all 74 and found incidents of firearms discharges supposedly on campuses. I found a case where two robbery suspects were apprehended on school grounds, a student who graduated years before went back to school and killed himself on school grounds at 1 am, a person appeared to have been murdered elsewhere and dumped on school grounds and my personal favorite, a student who used a firearm to defend himself against two others who were beating him. I only included some of the most glaring. There were many others and it became quite apparent what they were doing. Information is getting out. I do think this was a black eye to the news networks and Everytown. At the very least, they will tread lightly when dealing with that group again.
 
If you haven't noticed, fact checking and editing is essentially a thing of the past with regards to CNN.

We may may consider it to be manipulative bias (and a lot of it is), but it's also a reflection of the declining condition of traditional media as a whole. They just don't have the budgets they once had to staff their organizations with facts-checkers and editors anymore.

The state of newspapers is even worse.
^^ This is very true. It also seems that media "professionals" forgot that reporters don't change the world, they report the changes in it.
 
wow we congratulate the liberal media for correcting their errors in reporting once they realized that they couldnt continue their lie?
Actually I first saw the 74 number in the CNN article. Its not like they let it float out there for a week, got blasted, and retracted it. They addressed it almost immediately.
 
Worse, President Obama repeated it.

Caught it "out of the corner of my ear" on the news last night just before I hit the channel up-button on the remote, then could not get back to it on time. I know I said, "Say,what?" after the ten seconds it took for the number to sink into my mind.

Gee, you'd think the White House could afford a staff of fact-checkers, wouldn't you?

Terry, 230RN
 
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Worse, President Obama repeated it. Caught it "out of the corner of my ear" on the news last night just before I hit the channel up-button on the remote, then could not get back to it on time. I know I said, "Say,what?" after the number sunk into my mind.

Gee, you'd think the White House could afford a staff of fact-checkers, wouldn't you?

Terry, 230RN
Not surprising, given the first of anything Obama hears is from the news. Or so he says.
 
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