Got my carry gun..now what?

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DubbytheGreat

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I have been shooting my carry gun (HK p30) weekly at my buddies range along with my marlin xt 22 and don't get me wrong I have a lot of fun doing drills and plinking. But I'm looking for a general plinker that might also serve a purpose.

There are so many options! 1911s pocket pistols maybe a revolver/lever gun combo? Shotguns maybe a semi auto rifle?

So what direction did you guys take after finding your carry pistol?

I could use the money to buy more ammo but how boring is that?

Also i live in Florida and might consider trying my hand at a few hog hunts or deer
 
Hmm I hadn't considered that. I'm sure I could use some instruction. It might be strange but I get nervous and tense when receiving professional lessons and that's just when I take golf lessons. Something about having a professional watching me makes makes me self conscious :|
 
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If you are in Florida, see; www.mylicensesite.com www.S2institute.com www.floridafirearmslaw.com .
I'd look into a few training classes with S2 in Largo, Florida. They are first rate. The cadre are all US military & sworn LE veterans who really know how to teach.
It's not just bluster & war stories. :rolleyes:
If you want a simple carry gun in the Florida heat, Id opt for a Ruger LCR .38spl +P, a S&W 638 or 442/642(no lock format), a Beretta Nano 9mm, a SIG P290RS, a XDs .45acp 4.0, a Kahr CM40 or CM9, Glock 36 .45acp.

Sticky Holsters of south Florida, www.stickyholsters.com offers great concealed holsters & pocket type pistol magazine holders.

Rusty
 
Combo

A revolver lever gun combo in 357/38 is a great choice. Maybe a gp100 in 4" and lever gun in a barrel length you enjoy. Having more than one gun in a caliber makes buying ammo less boring. Always good to have choices.
 
What carry gun you are comfortable with is going to be your individual decision - just the same as the thousands of posters recorded in threads on the subject. If it's a gun, it's preferred by someone as their daily carry.

Beyond that, the more snag free and the fewest sharp contours comes up a lot, as close contact and wear under clothing tends to cause conflicts with typical woven clothing. Next, the average carrier begins to notice the size and weight, and begins to consider that a 19 shot double stack full size duty gun with two magazines might not be the most optimal carry piece for confronting a shooter in Walmart. That recent event goes back to the likely use of just a few shots at close range.

What carry does bring on to the scene is having enough training. The consensus is you can't get enough. Professionals get shot all over the country all the time. That also goes to being able to understand the scene as it's unfolding. Unfortunately, the pros will also tell you that, too, is impossible, and they set up training scenarios to defeat your best appreciation repeatedly, all drawn from actual situations - where the pros got shot.

Get the training - but understand it will come from a Pro, who is certified and required to run toward the sound of gunfire. That's his duty calling, but you need to consider whether that is your responsibility at all. Do you have family, are they with you, will YOU be perceived as an accomplice? After all, the cop on the scene - or other CCW - can't know exactly what YOU are up to.

The recent LV Walmart incident has yet to be released on the reputedly extensive video that the company uses. Nonetheless, as a situation that anyone could find themselves in, it hold lessons to learn.

That's what you do when you decide to carry. Adequate practice will keep your skills in marksmanship up, so it will have an expense in ammo. But more importantly, study and practice in recognizing threats as they develop in a changing situation is where we all need a lot more training. We can't risk gaining experience, tho. Even the Pros get shot.
 
DubbytheGreat said:
Hmm I hadn't considered that. I'm sure I could use some instruction. It might be strange but I get nervous and tense when receiving professional lessons and that's just when I take golf lessons. Something about having a professional watching me makes makes me self conscious....
Pretty much everyone does. That's a benefit of getting instruction: learning to manage things under stress. Competition, like IPSC or IDPA is also good for that.

But most importantly practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect. Practice also makes permanent; so if one keeps doing something poorly over and over, he will not get better at it. He will only become expert at doing it poorly.

There's no good substitute for a qualified instructor watching what you are doing and coaching you based on what he sees. That sort of good training shows one what to practice and how to practice it. It thus helps one avoid bad habits which later on can be an awful hassle to try to correct.
 
So what direction did you guys take after finding your carry pistol?

I kept looking for my carry pistol. Like many people, I found what I liked, and then found other guns that I thought would give an edge in power, capacity, size, weight, etc.... and I basically went through all the tradeoffs. I'd end up trading one carry gun for another, then another, in the pursuit of the "perfect" carry gun.

Ultimately when it comes to my carry guns, I've been very happy with a 5" Colt 1911 for my full size, Ruger Speed Six for an every day gun, and then my little LCP and LCR as my tiny guns.

Not to say you made a bad choice at all for a carry gun. The H&K P30 is a darn fine handgun. I'm just saying don't be shocked if, as your tastes develop and refine, if you find yourself wanting other carry guns and find yourself cheating on the H&K.
 
The biggest benefit of professional instruction is a good facility will educate you on legal aspects specific to your state and challenge you with shoot/no-shoot situations to get you thinking tactically (I hate that word since its so overused nowadays).

A lot of people think they're hot stuff but that physical skill set is worthless if you aren't in the legal right. It is like buying a car and taking it to Skip Barber or a similar high-performance racing school, but never learning traffic rules. I don't care how good a driver you are if you run red lights.
 
See if you are comfortable carrying that gun for a few months, if you find yourself making excuses why it's too big or heavy to carry, you may want to get a nice pocket pistol, like a Shield or a PM9.
They all look nice, but carrying something all the time is the key, after a lifetime of carrying everything from 1911's to revolvers, I realize that a small 9mm pocket gun, is something I can take with me anywhere I go.
Then a 12 gauge for HD, and an AR for fun and HD. After that and by then you will know more about where your interests lie as far as which type of shooter you are.
 
A lot of good advice has been given. I generally carry a Glock 36 .45 ACP, one of Rusty's suggestions, and sometimes trade off with a S&W 340PD .38/.357 for deep cover! ;) situations. Both are helpful in this Florida heat with their light weight. And you still have that punch.

For HD, a Remington 870HD 12 gauge is our comforting companion.Can all those cops out there in America be wrong? :D

Good fortune on your future picks. And you do have two very fine guns right now.
 
You picked a great time to be gun-shopping. The bubble holding up prices and demand has burst, and prices are probably nearly as low as they'll be in a very long time. AR/AK rifles and carbines are going for 50-60 percent of what they were 15 months ago. I just picked up my "next-direction" shooter, a Smith and Wesson M&P15 Sport for well under $600.

Hog hunting? In handgunning here in Florida, the .357 Magnum revolver is very popular for that. It's something I've never tried, but wouldn't mind doing. In fact, I was browsing Okeechobee Shooting's Hog Hunt info just the other day. They run a weekend course, including a day hunt, for $400, with a $100 refund if you fail to get a kill.

Like others have mentioned, there are so many directions to go with "next-direction" gun purchases, including more carry guns. I probably have eight guns purchased specifically for concealed carry. After settling on my "primary" EDC (finally), my next consideration was a pocket-pistol for deep concealment or "able-to-go-more-places" gun. That one was/is a Kel-Tec P32, by the way.

Good luck!
 
I go with classes and competition like Frank said. Males must leave ego at the door and be ready to look stupid and in more advanced classes screw up and get 'killed'.

I know many who won't train as they don't want to face the fact that they are not genetically determined super warriors. They need to learn this.

Being a beginner and open to instruction will be the way to go.

When I started to lift weights, I was quite weak. If I benched 50 lbs - I was impressed. My friend was a pro who benched in the 300s. But I strove to better myself and not care that people could do more. Could I progress - that was the issue. I managed to get to fairly decent weights before I tailed off for health reasons - just to lighter reps now.

Same with shooting. I challenge myself and if improve - that's great. No, I won't shoot as fast as a friend who is a national revolver champ. But he's supportive of new shooters as I was way back when.

Last, if you carry an instrument of lethal force for its use as such, we have moral obligation to be competent at a reasonable level.
 
Thanks for all the great replies everybody. I will definitely like look into the pistol lessons. I spent the day at the range (got rained on for hours) and humbled myself with a few drills I found online.

I still might have to get a revolver/lever combo or a remington 870 or a bushmaster....oh man this shooting thing is addictive.
 
Besides guns, gadgets, ammo, and training; I always keep an eye out for top quality gun belts and holsters. The same holster does not always work for different outfits.

Have fun with it ! :)
 
Of all the guns I've owned, none puts as big a smile on my face as shooting a single action revolver in .45 Colt.

Btw, you've already got the best 9mm with your P30. If you're looking for a pocket gun, it's hard to beat a J-frame.
 
All above good, take a pistol class from the best instructor you can find. You will be amazed at what you learn! I also recommend getting a .22 in the same type of action you carry (revolver vs semi auto) and practice, ALOT! Practice marksmanship, clearing jams, trigger control, reloading under stress and non stress situations. Have fun, learn a lot, and be safe!
 
Central FL? Only place I would consider is Southern Exposure in Lakeland FL. I have made the effort to fly specifically from CA to FL, just to take classes from Southern Exposure. They only host the best trainers. This season, it's Randy Cain.

The head of SE is a guy named Irv Lehman, a great guy and one of the funniest you'll ever meet on or off the range. You'll learn from some of the best trainers and in a supportive environment. No ninjas there, just people serious about learning how to shoot & behave during SD scenarios.

http://www.southernexposuretraining.com/schedule.php
Looks like they have some intro courses in Sept., but go ahead and call Irv and ask if there's any earlier courses.
 
There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread and there definitely are a number of ways to go. I try to follow the line of thinking that with limited amounts of practice time available and if buying a second or third gun, try to find models that have the same/similar/identical manual of arms. That is, same controls, placement of controls, sights and sighting modes.
That generally means one brand and line and just different model sizes. Then when you train, the muscle memory serves many models and you get deeper muscle memory training regardless of exactly what model you are using.
In your case that won't easily work because H&K tends to make a limited range of 'sizes' for their limited range of models. There is a long P30, there is a full size and compact USP in three calibers, there is a P7 M8, M10, M13.
S&W M&P's are a better example with the Shield, the Compact and the Full Size (and the long Full Size) as well as Pro and CORE models. Same for Glock which is likely the best example of this mode of training.
Of course this paradigm is a bit restrictive and I don't completely follow it. I do have a small set of H&K's, and a small set of M&P's as well as one 9mm VE, and three S&W revolvers.
It's a little less fun than owning one of many different types but I'm not suffering :).
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