Why Marlin discontinue the 9mm and .45ACP camp carbine ?

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I thought it looked interesting too, but think they should have built it to take at least 12 round magazines.

You can get 30 round drum magazines for the 1911 which will fit in it.
 
A couple of years back I too was looking for a camp carbine in 45 acp to mate up with my 1911's. However after researching the topic, I came to the same conclusion: aside from being discontinued, they're too expensive and too poorly built. But the concept is great.

I ended up with a Beretta Storm in 9mm, and bought a SA 1911 in 9mm to go along with it. Very happy with the Beretta - it's alot of fun, but not a serious blaster. Mags don't interchange, but I take them to the range together and just shoot 9mm - the ammo's cheaper too in 9mm!
 
[QUThe problem with .30 carbine ammo is the price. The cheap carbine ammo is generally about 50% more than cheap 9mm. Also, I'm not sure I want to pump Wolf, etc. down a nice M-1 carbine.

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Military grade M1 Carbine would be fine as long as it is not valuable collector (mine is $175 Pawnshop find ) but commercial made Carbine with tight chamber will break extractor beak pretty fast. I roll my own Carbine ammo so it cost about the same.

The PC-9 and PC-40 were built to handle regular shooting/qualifying, and patrol car stowage. They are heck for strong. So are the magazines.

I came across one right before they discontinue and really like it ,too bad they never made one in .45 ACP it would be nice match up with Ruger P90/97/345 pistol
 
My PD issued them before my time. They were such pieces of crap they pretty much fell apart within a couple of years. I heard the last year or so they were used people would check them out for the shift and pocket the mag since the PD mandated Smith autos at the time. They went back to shotguns before going to MP5s in 10mm. Eventually ARs replaced those.

The only story I heard of the Camp 9 being an effective tool for my PD was when an officer had to buttstroke someone with it and it dropped the dude instantly.
 
I have a 45 Camp carbine and it has been a great gun!! The buffer issue was taken care of by an old gun smith (passed) w/ his own invention. He also cleaned u the feed ramp and did some trigger work. I can't think of one malfunction since the work with good 10 rnd mags (Ed Brown)and w/ my old IPSC load 200g swc and 4.7g clays it shoots sub 1" groups at 100 yards.

They stopped building it because of lack of sales. The 9 was made one year after the 45 was is continued.

A while ago I took mine to a pin shoot and let a couple of guys shoot it, all of them liked and a couple had to go out and find one of there own
 
I think Marlin was cutting back and needed to stop making dust collectors. I personally think the 35 rem is one of the best out there, you can load it with 357 bullets (pistol or rifle) and it becomes a pretty handy dude.

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I'd be remiss if I didn't throw in the Mech Tech Carbine Conversion Unit I have for my 1911 in .45 ACP a few years back. I think it cost around $130 back when I bought it.

It takes about a minute to change the pistol over to the Carbine configuration and you can use any magazine that fits a 1911. I have a couple of 15+ rounders I picked up at a gun show that work fine and my regular Chip McCormick 10 round mags never give me a problem either.

I put a cheapie red dot sight on it and recently switched over to an equally inexpensive reflex sight.

It ain't real pretty, but I've never had problem with it as far as feeding or ejection goes and it's suprisingly accurate out to 100 yards for a pistol caliber.
 
Uh, because these pistol cartridges don't perform well enough to justify buying a carbine for practical applications, and for plinking, a .22 works just as well for a lot less money?
 
I called Kel-Tec today about the Sub2000. Sales dept says they make them in batchs, but not too many and not too often. Don't see any logic in that if the guns are wanted and you can't find/buy them.

They said they just shipped some to some distributors, and should be making more soon.
 
#26 Wait a minnit

Are you saying that a Colt 9x19mm drum mag will install and fire in a KelTec P11 9x19mm??
 
camp gun problem

Hey i love the gun almost as much as the high point but the reason why they stopped making/selling them is that buffer pad. You had to replace it every 35 years and like me i didn't know till it was too late tried to keep shooting and messed up the action. A little piece of space age plastic towards the back of the action. Which brings me to my question/ problem after putting the action back together trigger won't reset. I have to push the trigger foward after each shot. any one know the fix. still love the guhttp://www.thehighroad.org/images/smilies/banghead.gifn, wish it had
 
I can guess a reason Marlin discontinued the Camp 9. They discontinued it one year after the S&W 5906 was discontinued. I believe one of the marketing points of the Camp 9 was to have a rifle that used the a magazine that was compatible with a standard duty LEO sidearm. A LEO could take their spare S&W 59 or 69 series magazine and use it in a department issued 9mm rifle.

I am of the frame of mind that if you have a rifle chambered in a pistol caliber, it's a good idea to have it be able to utilize the magazines of a pistol you own.
 
Yep, an old thread for sure.

I have an early camp 9 IIRC around #365, accurate always has run well with the mags that came with it.

Don't use aluminum case ammo with them as they don't have enough neck tension and the bullet will set back and blow the E clips off the trigger group and split the stock.

It cost less than $400 new. I would sell it for $700 with two stocks (one has been repaired) and two trigger groups (one is just for parts).

Like anything, quit making them when you don't make any money doing so.
 
horseman 61. Change the buffer and recoil springs before you shoot it.

You can find both here.....

http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=camp+9

I use a 4x scope on mine but Skinner has a nice peep sight that will fit the Camp 9. Mine will not feed anything but brass cased ammo. Resist the temptation to have anyone do a trigger job on your rifle. The trigger group is all plastic and fiddling here can lead to slam fires. Don't ask me how I know.
 
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I have found two in .45acp at local gunshops, bought both, and sold both. They almost always have buffer issues, and a little wood actually need to be removed behind the receiver to keep it from eventually splitting. Also, reassembly often results in a non-functioning gun, that's why I let my gunsmith do it all.

On a brighter note, usually these threads have a person or two telling us that the .45acp performance does not improve significantly with a carbine barrel, but I disproved that in actual chrono tests in comparison with a 4" revolver. The carbine results are actually quite impressive for the .45.
 
Stiab, Just curious, is the velocity increase with 230 fmj or with lighter bullets or both? I have read the same information, that .45 acp doesnt deliver higher velocities in carbine length firearms. Ive never had a carbine and was wondering that fact as well. I had a .357 carbine that really impressed me with the velocity gains. It was a pretty serious power upgrade.

Learned alot from you guys with regards to stock splitting and brass cased ammo, trigger mods. Thanks.
 
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