Want to give duck a try this year

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Used to tag along duck hunting with my dad in Canada when I was younger, but never really participated.

I'm a little unsure of exactly when MI duck season runs, too.

I don't have a boat or a dog old enough to train to retrieve em. Does anyone here hunt from land, or have another way to retrieve the ducks from the water? I still don't have a spot to hunt, yet. I'm in the process of trying to find a spot on public land where I won't need a boat or a dog.

Tips tricks or suggestions? Pretty unsure of where to start.
 
I've hunted ducks PLENTY of times without a dog. I might even go so far as to say that I'm smarter than the average retriever too.

Ask around at local hunting stores, buy your local or regional hunting magazine, talk to a game warden.

There are lots of ways to hunt them without a boat or a dog…lots.
 
I have a dog, but haven't always. I've been hunting ducks since I was 14, turn 62 this November. The marshes I hunt most are wade-able. But, I have a pelican kayak for muddy bottoms at one WMA I've hunted and it helps me get across a little shallow lake to spots I like to hunt at another WMA, a lot easier than wading on a muddy bottom. I plan to get a new kayak if I can ever come up with the money, one built specifically for duck hunting and doubles as a layout blind. It's made by otter.

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I've hunted by boat, in bays, down the intracoastal canal 1.5 hour boat ride, and I find one particular WMA to be about as good as any. It's well managed by the state, only open 3 days a week, decent hunting in that unit. I live in duck hunting country 20 miles from Eagle Lake, Texas. Lots of day hunting here, guided and unguided, but haven't tried ducks here, just goose hunting. Goose hunting is fantastic around here. Teal season opened Saturday and I hear 'em blasting not far away in the mornings. Dang, I'm getting itchy to go. :D I won't take my dog down to that WMA, though. Too many big gators there, red eyes glowing with the flashlight. Dogs have been lost down there to gators. If I can't get a teal hunt here, I'll wait until duck season to hit my favorite WMA. It's about 100 miles from here, hunted it since it started when I lived down there. So, 2 nights in an RV park and the gas, well, 100 bucks a morning to hunt up here don't sound that bad. :D

You'll need decoys and you SHOULD learn to call. Calling is an art, though, and you'll probably just scare everything off until you learn what to blow and when. Too much calling is worse than none at all. The deeks will bring 'em in for you. I've yet to buy a mojo duck decoy, but they work great on doves. I don't really need one down at the WMA, but you might think about that. You'll need shallow enough water for one, though.

Number one way to success, though, is scouting pre-season for bird flight patterns, finding areas that hold birds. Get in the right spot and you don't even need deeks, but they will almost always improve things.
 
But, I bet your nose ain't as good. :D Dogs mean less lost birds, but one can hunt without one. I have many a year.

You got that right! :D

And I'm only claiming credit for being smarter than the "average" retriever…mathematically speaking that means theres a bunch that can both outsmell, AND outsmart me!
 
Have you heard of puddle jumping. Some ducks like puddles in fields. sneak up on them and shoot them when they flush. Wear high waterproof boots just in case. Narrow creeks and long poles are another way.
 
Ask around at local hunting stores, buy your local or regional hunting magazine, talk to a game warden.

Good idea. I think I'll reach out to my my local DNR this week.

Calling is an art, though, and you'll probably just scare everything off until you learn what to blow and when.

Another thing I didn't think about, thank you. Any suggestions to videos or reading material on calling?

Decoys are pretty much out due to lack of funds. I understand duck hunting can be pretty expensive with decoys, a bunch of different calls, nice shotgun, etc. I'm borrowing a 12 gauge Wingmaster, and pretty much gonna "rough" it without all the goodies this year.

Have you heard of puddle jumping

I'll have to look for a spot like this, thanks.
 
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Another thing I didn't think about, thank you. Any suggestions to videos or reading material on calling?

Go to a sporting goods store with all the stuff, like a Bass Pro or Cabelas or something. Buy a call with an instructional DVD or such. I learned from an 8 track tape that my buddy recorded off an LP album. THAT was a while back. :D That tape was good, though. I only had a tape deck in my car, so while driving home from college or to college from home, I'd listen to it and practice with a call in the car. People at intersections, no doubt, though I'd lost my mind. It took learning from the tape and lots of practice putting it into action. After 3 or 4 years of calling, I finally started feeling somewhat fluent in duck talk. Calling is fun in itself. It isn't always successful, of course, especially later in the season when the ducks have heard it all, but when it works, you feel like a super hero. :D

Decoys are pretty much out due to lack of funds. I understand duck hunting can be pretty expensive with decoys, a bunch of different calls, nice shotgun, etc. I'm borrowing a 12 gauge Wingmaster, and pretty much gonna "rough" it without all the goodies this year.

I think the last time I bought deeks, was at a Walmart. I got a dozen carrylites for 40 bucks or some such IIRC. I like the carrylites where I hunt because it's walk in and the walking isn't always easy. Shotgun, shells, marsh chair, decoys adds up and the carrylites are not only light, but compact in a smaller decoy bag. Big deeks in a big bag bounce off the back of my legs when I'm walking, a real pain. The carrylites are inflatable by mouth and, of course, water keel meaning no weight in the keel. Weighted keel are desirable on big water like out in the bay where the wind doesn't mess 'em up. They look more natural in the highish seas. But, water keel deeks do me just fine on the potholes where I hunt, even on the little lakes. That's another thing, instructional videos will teach you where and how to set your deeks for maximum effect given calm days, windy days, etc. If set in the right spot, the ducks will want to go there. All you need on small water is a dozen. Out on the bay in big water, the more the marrier. Hunting big water, of course, usually takes a boat, too. It's more expensive than hunting pot holes on WMAs. I picked up several dozen weighted keel with some pintail magnums (bigger than life) for 20 bucks from a guy, all used, but most without holes. I never hunt big water, though, just couldn't turn 'em down. I have hunted in blinds built in the bay with friends, but never really got into bay hunting that much. Matagorda Island has all these nice round pot holes along the Espiritu Santos bay shore. They are bomb craters. There was an Army Air Corps base there during WW2 and a bombing range. State owns it now and hunting is legal there, but, being right next to the bay, it's mostly redheads with a few pintails and other ducks. I just hate having to get up early enough to drive to the boat ramp, put in, run 3 miles across a bay even in smooth conditions which don't often exist in winter, find the pothole (easier now days with GPS), and wade in and set up before shooting time. I'm lasy, the WMA I hunt actually has better hunting, and there's no boat involved. You DO need to be in line by 4AM, though, to get a good spot, but there always seems to be a spot to be had even if you're a little late.

All this is best learned by experience, but a good instructional video will get you started off in the right direction. It ain't rocket science, but there's a lot more to it than deer hunting, dove hunting, squirrel hunting, that sort of thing. I was addicted to it at a young age and would rather go duck hunting on a cold, blustery day than about anything else including deer hunting from my box blind.

When I was young, I hunted a marsh outside of a nearby town. Thing is, in Texas, you cn hunt "tide land" and if you know where that tide land is, it's free, no lease necessary. I was a kid, no money, grandpa had dropped his deer lease in Leaky, Texas and all I had to hunt was squirrel in the woods because we had no deer. I got into ducks with a friend. My dad had given me a boat with a 3HP Evenrude for birthday/christmas. My dad had money that my mom and step dad didn't. THAT was a NICE gift! Had to borrow the step dad's truck in the morning to use it, but hey, I got a truck, eventually. That opened up a world of duck hunting to me. For Christmas, my mom asked me what i wanted, told here DECOYS. I got a dozen Victor weighted keel deeks for that Christmas and I was in heaven. :D Best Christmas ever. :D But, before that, I didn't have any deeks. I read an article in Outdoor Life magazine where you could use paper bags for deeks. So, I went to this marsh outside of the nearby town, was a walk in spot, no boat necessary. It was a calm morning, set out my paper bags floating on the water, and as the sun came up and it got shooting light, the ducks piled in on those bags! I did fairly well with my grandpa's old 20 gauge 870 Wingmaster. :D But, when the sun got higher, the bags just looked like bags floating on the water, fooled nothing, so my shooting pretty much stopped and I picked up the trash and went home. LOL

It wasn't until I was a freshman at Texas A&M that I took up learning how to call. I did all this on a po boy's budget, too. My parents were working class and I had to fund my own way through school without help by holding down up to 3 jobs at a time. Weren't a lot of money or time in those years for duck hunting, but I did the best I could. I had my little boat on top of my truck on a carrier and would run over to lake Somerville to shoot, where I got my first mallards. So, ya know, I did it on a budget and I loved every minute of it. :D
 
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I imagine that MCgunner knows as much about waterfowl hunting as anyone on these boards. Listen to him.

One thing to add: A long casting rod with a big heavy floating lure is a good way to retrieve dead ducks from a deep water area if you are land-locked. Just cast over them and slowly reel in til you hit the duck and then try to set the hook. It might take a few casts to get the knack down.
 
I imagine that MCgunner knows as much about waterfowl hunting as anyone on these boards. Listen to him.

I am writing notes in my notebook!

One thing to add: A long casting rod with a big heavy floating lure is a good way to retrieve dead ducks from a deep water area if you are land-locked.

I did actually think of this, just wasn't sure how well it'd work.
 
I tied a stick to some 20 pound line and used it to bring in ducks and decoys. (Use a spinning reel for this). I call it a duck rake.
 
Well I thought I had made a successful post but it doesn't appear that way.

I was curious if that Wingmaster you are borrowing can shoot non-lead shot safely.
 
I tried the fishing pole trick on the first duck I ever killed. Unfortunately the wind was blowing hard and before I could reel her in she was out in open water! I was also in college at the time and quite ambitious, couldn't let that duck get away. Despite it being November and the water around 40 degrees I stripped down to my skivvies and took a swim. I retrieved the duck as my faithful 3 legged dog Peggy watched from the bank...

Either way the important thing is to get out there. Learning from experience is very rewarding and if you do your homework you might even kill a few birds. Scouting is key. Without deeks or calling experience id try to locate a swamp, farm pond or creek you can jump shoot them on. These days I have a couple dozen deeks, waders, and a kayak but I'll never forget my first duck.

HB
 
I tied a stick to some 20 pound line and used it to bring in ducks and decoys. (Use a spinning reel for this). I call it a duck rake.

Certain not a bad idea, and worth a shot!

Pretty sure the gun can eat steel, but will double check. Never even thought about it, thank you.

And I plan on going scouting this weekend after I talk to DNR like suggested before.
 
" I got a dozen Victor weighted keel deeks for that Christmas and I was in heaven."

I still had some old pintail and mallard Victor decoys about 8-10 years ago that hadn't busted open like eggs. I'll have to go through my 200+ decoys to see if they're still around.
Those were what I called "stylized" decoys when the other guys would make fun of them. They worked just as good as their G&H ones though. :)
 
Pretty sure the gun can eat steel, but will double check. Never even thought about it, thank you.

If it's interchangeable choke, it's probably fine. The steel shot laws started in 1980. If it was made after that, it's steel compatible. Shoot a modified or I/C choke in it and you might pattern the gun with your chosen load, always a good thing.
 
I still had some old pintail and mallard Victor decoys about 8-10 years ago that hadn't busted open like eggs. I'll have to go through my 200+ decoys to see if they're still around.
Those were what I called "stylized" decoys when the other guys would make fun of them. They worked just as good as their G&H ones though.

Mine were mallards. I think they all eventually cracked and got tossed. That hard plastic was brittle. I've been through so many deeks since, hell, I can't keep up. :D
 
If it's interchangeable choke, it's probably fine. The steel shot laws started in 1980. If it was made after that, it's steel compatible. Shoot a modified or I/C choke in it and you might pattern the gun with your chosen load, always a good thing.

It was bought new a few years ago, so GTG. I was thinking about taking it out this weekend to pattern it.
 
I haven't hunted waterfowl in decades,but had fun doing it.I walked meadow creeks and jumped them or sat in cover and pass shot them as they flew up and down the creek.Some of the creeks were tiny.On the wide ones I used a weighted treble hook to retrieve them.
 
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