Low light class West Coast Tactical!

Quick question...

What equipment needed? Do you need night sights? What flashlight do you use?

I took their Level I shotgun course and would highly recommend them.

Small class size with three instructors.

Jim

Sounds good

I no longer live in torrance but I grew up there so seeing this range mentioned on THR gave me a bit of a thrill.

I moved long before I got into the bang-bang side of guns (as opposed to the talk-talk side) so I never went to that range. Ahh, I missed out. :banghead:


But we are planning a trip and we will be stopping to see friends and relatives in that area and whilst we are there we will take some classes.

Thanks for the heads up.

I'm

So was this a handgun class or what ?

Gents,

Thanks for the kind words.

big school instruction with the small school ambiance

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Now that is a great tag line! That's going on the web site. Thanks brother!

Quick question...

What equipment needed? Do you need night sights? What flashlight do you use?

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Cal4D4,

There may be times when turning on a light will place you at a tactical disadvantage. If your adversary is being illuminated by ambient light and threat identification has already been established you may wish to use the darkness to conceal your position and engage your adversary using your night sights without illumination.

Dusk and dawn are good examples when there may be enough ambient light for threat identification, but there may not be enough light for rapid sight acquisition. During low light conditions such as dusk and dawn night sights may offer a tactical advantage.

A few thoughts on flashlights.

1. Durability. The flashlight should be rugged enough to endure the rigors of combat.

2. Brightness. ( 60 lumens min.) The flashlight should be bright enough to immediately disorient and identify a potential threat consistent with the distances found in your environment.

3. Ergonomics. The switch should be locatable immediately under extreme stress and the flash light should be sized for ease of manipulation under a wide range of techniques.

4. Water proof/resistant. The flashlight should be able to remain operational in harsh environments.

5. Momentary Switches. Constant on/off switches may not allow enough flexibility for strobbing, powering, painting, etc.

6. Back up lights. Bulb failure, extra batteries.

The WCT staff use and endorse Sure Fire products. Stream light, Pelican, and others also produce high quality flashlights.

HTH

Fred Darling, www.wct.4t.com

Hey there Fred,

Like I said before my wife and I will be taking a course from you, but we are not experienced shooters. We have done some range shooting woth rental guns but we have not done a tactical training. What I was wondering is would it be worthwhile to buy some video tapes such as what is sold at Gunsite's site? Would that help me when I got to your training or would I then have to unlearn some stuff because you teach things differently?

I have another issue. My wife and I are not looking to become professionals. We are not going to be clearing houses or doing any of that other high speed stuff, so I want to sure that what you teach is applicable to to civilian homeowners and the situations we would ( hopefully never) find ourselves in.


Oh, and how can you afford to put on classes for such a low amount when Gunsite charges over a 1000 bucks for their training?

Not a surprise!

I've been learning from Fred for years now on another forum. Good stuff, no dogma, no BS, always learning and improving. Taking the best from the best and discarding the rest.

Now if only us non-Californians could get some training that did not require going to Kali on two separate Sundays.:banghead:

Roger

Like I said before my wife and I will be taking a course from you, but we are not experienced shooters. We have done some range shooting with rental guns but we have not done a tactical training. What I was wondering is would it be worthwhile to buy some video tapes such as what is sold at Gunfight's site? Would that help me when I got to your training or would I then have to unlearn some stuff because you teach things differently?

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IAHTL,

You folks may be better served by taking a gun handling, safety, and marksmanship course before jumping into the tactical course. We offer one that is designed to prep the new shooter for our tactical classes. Thus far it has worked out well and several shooters have commented that they were glad they took the basic class first.

Gun Site is the original and considered by most to be one of, if not, the premiere schools on the planet. I haven't viewed the videos so I can't comment one way or the other.

I have another issue. My wife and I are not looking to become professionals. We are not going to be clearing houses or doing any of that other high speed stuff, so I want to sure that what you teach is applicable to civilian homeowners and the situations we would (hopefully never) find ourselves in.

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We have worked hard to keep our curriculums as practical and down to earth as possible. The Level One course's goals are to keep your weapon hitting, loaded, and running. We work from the holster and introduce movement, but the emphasis is placed on getting quick hits and keeping your weapon in the fight. We also address mindset and use of deadly force.

Oh, and how can you afford to put on classes for such a low amount when Gunsite charges over a 1000 bucks for their training?

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In talking with folks on discussion boards like this, it seems that time and money keep a lot of folks from training. We thought we'd make our training as economical as possible to help get folks started. Some of our shooters also train with several other schools and this is healthy for the industry. We encourage getting as much information as possible and from a wide rage of perspectives.

You're asking all the right questions.

Thanks for the interest.

Fred Darling, WCT.

Now if only us non-Californians could get some training that did not require going to Kali on two separate Sundays

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We're working on it.

The reason we spread the class over two consecutive Sundays is to minimize overload and to give the shooters a week to ingrain the techniques from the first days evolutions. That keeps the shooters sharp and alert which makes for a very safe learning environment.

Take care my friend.

Right on, Fred.

We'll take the prep classes and then see where we are at.

Thanks,

I'm