Briefly explain the CZ subcompact choices please?

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I really like my stainless 75B. I shoot it well, it's reliable and very ergonomic for me. But with spine issues its weight could become an issue for me over time. I have pocket CCW'ed a Ruger SP101 for many years, and recently have been thinking about a switch to semi-auto for greater capacity. I prefer the CZ line for a number of reasons, and want to stay with 9MM for caliber. And I do not at all want polymer. Just don't.
I have never studied on the CZ sub-compact series. If there are folks here who have some good experience they could share, as well as advice on a choice I'd be grateful. Or should I look into the compact series? Some proven semi-auto designs have historically suffered reliability problems when the original design is shrunk for CCW purposes. That's exactly what I want to avoid, and the main reason for seeking input.
I could go de-cocker operation or regular. I'm comfortable with either.
Reliability is supremely above all else to me.
Thank you. Don.
 
I had a Poly Rami in 9mm. It was a good gun, rather heavy for a sub compact but a good size. Only reason I sold it was I wanted to get away for the SA/DA trigger and stay with the DOA triggers like on my other guns.
 
The Rami is roughly the size of a Glock 26 subcompact. I've never owned one, but I would prefer the D version for the decocker. My EDC is the 75D compact "PCR". It's roughly the size of a Glock 19 and holds 14 rounds in the magazine. I really love this gun. It shoots great, 100% reliable, and carries well. The only downside is the width of the gun with the slide-lock and take down "button". There is a wonderful 1/3 cocked position that occurs after depressing the decocker. Makes the DA/SA transition almost seemless.
 
2 thoughts as i have serious ortho issues also,

1 A Fobus paddle holster makes carrying a 75 B or compact comfortable for me

2 look at the CZ 82 or 83 in 9mak 380
 
My carry gun is a CZ P-01. Alloy frame, so it is a lot lighter to carry. Mine is marked as a 75D compact, which is the European marking. The P-01 is the same gun marked for the U.S. market.

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I carry the lightweight, alloy framed CZ-75D PCR. It is not a "sub compact" pistol by any means, more a semi compact, but it is easily carried, and shoots extremely well. It is lighter than the all steel Compact, or full size, steel framed CZ pistols. The PCR is somewhat similar to the P-01, but without the boxy light rail.

I highly recommend the PCR, P-01, or RAMI for carry pistols.
 
The OP asked about CZ subcompact options.

The only NEW production CZ subcompact is the RAMI which comes in two forms (safety, or decocker), and in two calibers (9mm and .40). (You might find a used polymer RAMI).

http://cz-usa.com/product-category/handguns/sub-compact-series/

The two smaller CZs mentioned (CZ-82 or CZ-83) are fine guns, but much older. The CZ-82 is a military surplus weapon, available only in 9x18. The CZ-83 is basically the same gun with minor mods, made for civilian sale. It has been discontinued but NEW OLD STOCK versions can probably be found. The CZ-83 is most often found in .380 (but also was made in .32 and 9x18). These guns are probably rightly described as sub-compact" guns but aren't usually described that way -- they were new before those terms came into common use.

The OTHER CZs mentioned are compacts somewhat larger than most sub-compacts: the alloy-framed compact P-01, PCR, both with decockers, or the steel-framed Compact which is equipped with a safety. The CZ Custom Shop offers some variations, such as the P-02 and P-06; some some pricier semi-custom versios, such as their SDP; you need to go there for the particulars.

If I were looking for a compact CZ, I'd be looking at the CZ P-07, which has a good reputation, shoots well, and is light. (I mention it despite the OPs aversion to polymer. It seems to be a very good gun. I'd also be looking at the Ruger SR9c.)
 
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Thank you all for the timely responses. The information offered does clear up some confusions I had had. DOn.
 
The Rami BD(decocker) in 9mm has a lot of positive reviews. All I hear about them is that they're really accurate subcompacts.The one draw back is that they are chunky for a subcompact. Every now and then the 40s&w versions seems to still have feeding problems.
 
All but that M&P (which I don't particularly care for, but would own) are unimpressive IMO. Ruger, Taurus, Solo, Nano, Kahr.... Just not for me. My experience with CZ has been amazing and not as a fanboy. I keep trying to convince myself that I'm crazy, but I put down my Glocks, my Sig 239, and my PPS after finding that I shoot that PCR far more comfortably, accurately, and reliably than any of them. This is a personal preference comment. I'm not here to ridicule others' choices, but the OP is on the right track IMO.
 
I had my standards for a long time which included a minimum weight and size/capacity, believing those standards effected better accuracy and defensive strategy. I've been dealing with back issues for years and those issues finally precluded carrying my "minimum." Reality was, if I wanted to carry it would be something smaller, lighter and with different characteristics than I previously desired.

If the OP has significant spine issues, he may want to broaden his horizons over time.
 
If take a Rami over any of those pictured.

Ditto.

I have owned more than half of those pistols in the picture, and have learned that warranty service, whether good or bad, is way less fun than shooting, shooting, and then shooting some more.

And Kahr was by far the worst service experience ever, even when compared to Taurus.

And lastly, I shoot my CZ's way more accurately, but YMMV.
 
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