Which 1911

Which 1911

  • Kimber TLE/RLII

    Votes: 15 14.6%
  • Springfield LW Operator

    Votes: 44 42.7%
  • S&W E-Series Tactical

    Votes: 25 24.3%
  • Sig Sauer Extreme

    Votes: 19 18.4%

  • Total voters
    103
  • Poll closed .
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Speak from experience, not what you hear. The Sig is every bit as tight and fitted as any Kimber, but without the bad rep of issues owners complain about them. Kimbers, like cults, have their fanboys who put down others to bolster their choice.
 
I have 3 sig 1911's, and a total of 9 Sig's in all.

The Sig 1911 TTT comes with a match grade barrel for around $1000 in Calif.

Also have the Stainless Steel model, and Black Nitron.

Sigs are amazing tools, I really like em and have had no trouble with my 1911's.

be safe
 
Thank you guys for the input. I'd like the Dan Wesson specialist but I believe it's out of my price range. I'm still going to look for one but I think I'll have to put it on the shelf for now. The TRP with rail is a nice gun but I've only been able to fine it with adjustable sights. I'd rather have fixed night sights or straight 8s. Keep the thoughts coming boys. Thank you
 
Somewhere on the first page somebody was saying something about the quality of Sigs 1911 parts not being up to par with the other brands. From my experience and research I have seen, the Sigs have a match grade barrel, bushing, trigger and also have all bar stock parts. Supposeddly no cast ot mim at all and the slide to frame fit is done by hand. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Somewhere on the first page somebody was saying something about the quality of Sigs 1911 parts not being up to par with the other brands. From my experience and research I have seen, the Sigs have a match grade barrel, bushing, trigger and also have all bar stock parts. Supposeddly no cast ot mim at all and the slide to frame fit is done by hand. Correct me if I'm wrong.


New SIG 1911s use a number of MIM parts but still less than their competition. Match grade barrel is just marketing, and I highly doubt the slides are hand fit.

That said, at OPs price point a SIG is the best deal out there (well under $1,000) unless he can wait, in which case some diligence would net him a DW specialist for close to $1200.
 
Every sig 1911 I've handle has been amazing I even owned a GSR some years back. I bought my dad a tac ops for fathers day (there is a thread on here about it) I've been looking into the STI single stacks also due to yall's input. I think the DW is the number one pick right now follow by the Springfield operator. I'm a buy once cry once type of guy, I like nice over built guns. I'm hard on guns, I shoot a lot, I have a Glock with 30k plus round count.

A week ago I was in the shop looking at a colt rail gun, slightly used for $1k. Awesome gun and very smooth but the slide fitment left me thinking that it would break before the end of the year. So I thought this would be a good thread and hopefully bring up some good discussion about 1911s that have the things I want.
 
Peter the fish,

I have a Sig 1911 TTT, it has a match grade barrel, it shoots like a match grade barrel. The slide is hand finished to the frame.

I dont think Sig Sauer would say it if it isn't true. You can get into trouble for stuff like that.

You really should try one if you can get your hands on one, you'll really be surprised.

be safe
 
Of your choices I went with the Kimbers, since I've had great luck with my other two, so-so luck with my Springfield, and haven't had a S&W or Sig.

That said, for that price and requirements I'd really look at the Warrior (mine is superb) on the Kimber side, or an STI, probably the Duty One (I think there's a railed 5").
 
Am I the only one who thinks a rail on a 1911 just looks wrong?

No you aren't. The purists out there are usually pretty loud about not liking them. I don't mind them, but when I bought my 1911 on a whim the presence of a rail was irrelevant to me. Mine is a range, and open carry gun. A rail would be fine, but I'm fine without it. Of course my 1911 has a large beavertail, an external extractor, fish scale cocking serrations, and forward serrations, so I'm far from a purist.

If I was using it for HD, I would definitely want a rail on it for a light, or maybe a laser.

I don't really consider a laser to be an advantage anymore in a SD situation, as it could fail. It is an excellent tool to learn trigger discipline though, and applaud them for that reason.
 
Just a note, you said you want a full size 1911 but the Springfield model in your poll is a 4" Commander size 1911.
No Sir,

The Light Weight Operator is a 5" barrel. I even included a picture of it.

As far as the rail goes gentleman: This 1911 will wear a TLR-1 light on it 100% of the time it is in my ownership. I do not believe in keeping with the 104 year old design is practical for my or todays application. I'm a firm believer in always moving forward. If the all original is your thing and the weapon would spend most of its life in a safe I am happy for you and would never say a negative thing about it. It is however not my thing. Guns are my tools, I do not collect or own them just to own them. I use them and do it rather harshly.

Small update: After talking with y'all, contacting some industry friends, and doing a whole lot of research I believe I will go for the Dan Wesson Specialist as my number one pick. If I can't get my hands on one or can't raise the funds the Springfield LW Operator or standard operator is coming in second still. I will keep going with this thread and still continue to get as much information as possible. Stay tuned!
 
I'll weigh in here. Of the listed guns, I'd go with the Springfield over the Sig, Kimber or Smith. The reason being that the Springfield is the only one of the lot that doesn't have a firing pin block type safety. While Kimber can turn out a fine 1911, I've had a number of them and found them to be hit or miss.

Specifically, I have an Eclipse Custom II (first ever 1911 with a firing pin block safety) and while re-assembling the gun after a routine cleaning, sheared the top of the pin that disengages the firing pin block because I was holding gun by the grip as normal causing the pin to protrude up from the frame. Took a trip back to Kimber to have the part replaced. They also replaced the slide with new assembly with a traditional extractor to try and address some of the reliability issues I was having at that time. Aside from that, the gun functioned fine when using 230 ball ammo, HP's were very much hit or miss. I had the best luck with Federal Hydra-shoks, but even with those the gun is less than 100%; Corbon Pow'r Ball is the only defense ammo that's been 100% in that gun.

I had a Custom Royal II that had all kind of issues including a thumb safety breakage, complete lack of reliability with ball or JHP ammo, and I also had to replace the ejector in this gun. Next Kimber was a Desert Warrior and while function was pretty decent, it was still picky with magazines. The gun worked beautifully with Wilson #47 7 round mags, but tended to not like 8 round mags (frequent stovepipe feeds) and for some reason or another didn't like my 7 round Checkmate mags either. I also had to replace the slide stop on this as the part broke at the axel.

On the other hand, I've had and still have a number of Springfield 1911's that run very well. I've got a parkerized Loaded full size pistol that I've not had any problems with, but you really get what you pay for. Frame sits ever so slightly proud of the slide, but it has not affect function at all. This gun has been upgraded over the time I've had it with a Wilson drop in match grade barrel and bushing, a pinned Wilson Bulletproof ejector and a Wilson single sided bulletproof tactical thumb safety. I've got a Springfield MC Operator that has been 100% and which has much better fit and finish than the loaded. The only thing that was changed on it was swapping the factory ambidexterous safety for a Wilson bulletproof single sided tactical safety. I had a stainless TRP that I carried daily right up until I got my Wilson CQB Compact...idiotically the I sold the TRP shortly after getting the Wilson. The only changes to the TRP were again swapping the ambidexterous thumb safety for a Wilson bulletproof single sided safety and swapping the full length guide rod for a conventional short guide rod and end plug.

I also have a Springfield EMP 9mm that gets carried during the summer months and it's been 100%. I have not encountered any function issues with the Springfields that have REQUIRED the parts changes I've made, but I instead made them based on personal preference.

As has been stated earlier, Sig, while a good 1911, has odd slide dimensions that can make finding a holster a little more of a challenge, it also has an external extractor, but they execute this much better than Kimber did while they were doing it. The Smith also uses an external extractor, but again, I'm sure they execute it very well.

To be honest, I'd say save a few more bucks and try and nab a Springfield TRP Operator. It may also be worth your while to look at Fuzion firearms as they make a very solid 1911 that is available with a rail.
 
The first 1911 to come to my mind after reading this was the Dan Wesson Specialist. I'm going to get one, but I've had several DW's in the past and they're wonderful 1911's. You can find the DW Specialist (stainless) online for around $1350.
 
My problem with most SIG 1911's is the shape of the slide. They require different holsters.

I'd choose the S&W 1911 since I have had bad luck with Springfield and Kimber.
 
My problem with most SIG 1911's is the shape of the slide. They require different holsters.

I'd choose the S&W 1911 since I have had bad luck with Springfield and Kimber.
Clearly, it's going to be tough to get a clear winner when talking about mass produced 1911's. In all honesty, my best recommendation would be to wait, save some more money and get a proper 1911 from Wilson Combat, Volkmann Precision, Les Baer, Nighthawk Custom, or Guncrafter Industries.
 
My problem with most SIG 1911's is the shape of the slide. They require different holsters.

I'd choose the S&W 1911 since I have had bad luck with Springfield and Kimber.
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My Sig has the traditional slide.
 
Just curious, but is there any particular reason the OP didn't include the Colt Rail Gun? I've never owned one, but have shot a couple and found them to be as solid as any Kimber or Springfield. I've excluded Sig and S&W because I really don't have any trigger time with them sufficient to compare them.
 
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