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Americans will not make the AK as well as the old standard commie countries. American industry will find ways to cheapen the design, cut corners on materials etc. You will end up with no chrome on anything, weak springs, all polymer mags. Also I have never seen American 7.62x39 outperform russian wolf in any of my AK, sks, or sig rifles. Surplus steel mags are strong.
Not so. I own a CAI Centurion 39 Sporter and its predecessor, the CAI Polish 1960. Both are exceptional shooters, straight, well-made milled AK's. The centurion, with an Aimpoint 9000L riding on an Ultimak rail, put 10 rounds into 2" at 100yards on my last range outing using 123 grain Golden Bear Soft-Points. 100% American made.
 
I dont want chrome anything on an AK. Im not even an AK fan tbh. They seem to be inaccurate but very durable. The cartridge is not impressive to me considering its big and over powered.

All that said id still buy one if I had everything I wanted already. Id take an AR-15 from Colt ANY day over an AK.


Also, whoever said it would be cheapend down if made in the USA. Your right to a degree but your wrong too. Their will be companies who make a very competitive AK. With advanced technologies we have today there's no limit as to what we can do.

America knows how to make a firearm.
 
Not so. I own a CAI Centurion 39 Sporter and its predecessor, the CAI Polish 1960. Both are exceptional shooters, straight, well-made milled AK's. The centurion, with an Aimpoint 9000L riding on an Ultimak rail, put 10 rounds into 2" at 100yards on my last range outing using 123 grain Golden Bear Soft-Points. 100% American made.
Ten rounds into two inches, eh? Seems legit.
 
I sense a bit of skepticism here. I will hopefully get to the range this weekend. For the record, the way this thing shoots FREAKED ME OUT, a notion shared by the spectators. I should have pulled that target before emptying the rest of that mag in rapid -fire celebration.
 

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I sense a bit of skepticism here. I will hopefully get to the range this weekend. For the record, the way this thing shoots FREAKED ME OUT, a notion shared by the spectators. I should have pulled that target before emptying the rest of that mag in rapid -fire celebration.
I might be missing something here...what was causing people to freak out?
 
Hey, if we produce them here then they are open for military contract right?

I do not think you will EVER see any military unit's using AK's... except when SHTF big time and that is the only operable weapon they can pick up. I read once about a mission in the mountains of Tora Bora where CIA or some federal agency was using the Stoner 7.62 AR's because they did not want their presence to be known and if 5.56 shell casings were left it would be obvious. But my point being they still used AR's.
 
From the article:
"We are not permitted to pick up the phone and to talk to them,"
I smell BS, did .Gov really tell them they couldn't TALK to them?


Either way, I hope they make a quality product and do well.
If they do I may own one someday.
 
Would certainly enjoy getting a fully interchangable AK/AKM rifle made in USA. If it's going to be proprietary parts then no thank you. That's the only thing keeping me away from the C39, lifetime warranty or not. I want parts and mags compatability.
 
Would certainly enjoy getting a fully interchangable AK/AKM rifle made in USA. If it's going to be proprietary parts then no thank you. That's the only thing keeping me away from the C39, lifetime warranty or not. I want parts and mags compatability.

C39V2 is supposed to be compatible with AKM. I would assume the RAS47 is as well

If you watch the video I posted earlier though, the lower forend might need a bit of fitting.
 
From the article:
"We are not permitted to pick up the phone and to talk to them,"
I smell BS, did .Gov really tell them they couldn't TALK to them?

In a word. Yes. At least in terms of any business or commercial conversation.

Under executive order, the Treasury Dept issued sanctions against Kalashnikov Concern, by name.

I guess asking how the CEO's kids are doing would be technically OK. But I can see that statement being made as an expression of an abundance of caution.
 
First, read between the lines. They are talking about Kalashnikov which equates to many people (at least to the media) as AK. So when the media thinks AK they think Kalashnikov. When Kalashnikov USA talks AK they mean Kalashnikov AKs i.e., "real AKs made in the US". It's a marketing thing.

Second, the article quotes a sales guy at the booth saying they are looking for a factory to make AKs in the US. Sales guys tend to exaggerate and hype things. "Looking for a factory" is a long way from actually making anything. Personally, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting. Sanctions could be lifted by the time they set something up and it would still be cheaper to import them than make them.
 
I hope this company doesnt have anything to do with the "original" Kalashnikov USA, or its going to be a mess. The boy running it then (I cant remember his name now), was bad news.

They still owe me a rifle from about 15 years ago. I have an early AK103K from them, that was done by Mark Krebs. He was building the for them, prior to them going down, and him doing it on his own.

"Americans will not make the AK as well as the old standard commie countries."
It's funny, but I fully believe this to be the truth.
I believe it to be the truth as well, and have already lived it. Of all the AK's Ive owned, the US assembeled guns were the least accurate, and most trouble prone.

Im not saying that wont change over time, but I personally wouldnt put any money down, until I see how things go, and how things work out.
 
First, read between the lines. They are talking about Kalashnikov which equates to many people (at least to the media) as AK. So when the media thinks AK they think Kalashnikov. When Kalashnikov USA talks AK they mean Kalashnikov AKs i.e., "real AKs made in the US". It's a marketing thing.

The company under discussion is Russian Weapons Company (RWC), which claims to be the exclusive importer of Kalashnikov product into the USA. With their supply channel dried up, they are naturally looking for another angle (to stay in business, of course).
 
I might be missing something here...what was causing people to freak out?
It was just the fact that after 10-12 rounds, the bullseye was completely gone, replaced by a single 2" hole. No flyers, not even all that ragged. It was fairly brisk paced shooting as well; a round every 5 seconds or so. Compared to other AK's I've shot, this kind of accuracy was not expected.
 
First, read between the lines. They are talking about Kalashnikov which equates to many people (at least to the media) as AK. So when the media thinks AK they think Kalashnikov. When Kalashnikov USA talks AK they mean Kalashnikov AKs i.e., "real AKs made in the US". It's a marketing thing.

Second, the article quotes a sales guy at the booth saying they are looking for a factory to make AKs in the US. Sales guys tend to exaggerate and hype things. "Looking for a factory" is a long way from actually making anything. Personally, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting. Sanctions could be lifted by the time they set something up and it would still be cheaper to import them than make them.

"Looking for a factory" can also mean "looking for an established company to subcontract with." Given the tight timelines he lists, building a new factory from the ground up might be tough. But I could see them negotiating a deal with Century to license and rebrand some CAI rifles, charging a slight premium for the Kalashnikov USA name.
 
Americans will not make the AK as well as the old standard commie countries.
Really, is that why our AR's are such crap and only a tiny bit more expensive than cheap import AK's??? Hogwash, like everything else, guns are made to fit a price point. Problem is our labor is not as cheap as it is in eastern Europe and people aren't willing to spend more for high quality American made products.

First thing I'd do is ditch the chrome lined bore. It's unnecessary on a semi-auto.
 
"Looking for a factory" can also mean "looking for an established company to subcontract with." Given the tight timelines he lists, building a new factory from the ground up might be tough. But I could see them negotiating a deal with Century to license and rebrand some CAI rifles, charging a slight premium for the Kalashnikov USA name.

Or InterOrdnance, or Arsenal USA. Perhaps a dark horse?
 
LOL... :) The tighter tolerances will also give that AK indigestion with some of the ammo, too.

Being able to hold tighter tolerances and keep them in control is ALWAYS better.

It's having CLEARANCES that are too tight that will get you into trouble
 
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