NRA Director Grover Norquist - Jihadist associate?

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I have seen a couple of net articles that assert current (and up for re-election) NRA Director Grover Norquist is associated with the radical Islam. One internet site, understandingthethreat.com makes this assertion.

Anyone heard anything about this?
 
Oh take it somewhere else. This guy seems so Right Wing with a touch of Libertarian that he makes George Bush look like Karl Marx.
I know what you're hinting at and I'm not taking the bait. He seems like a stand up dude.
 
From what I understand, Norquist co-founded the Islamic Free Market Institute to help recruit support and funding for conservative and Libertarian causes in the Muslim community. He is also married to a Palestinian who has done PR work for Kuwait.

While I'm sure his political opponents can dig up contributions from and contacts with Muslims with ties to extremism it's impossible for a group to vet every contributor and attendee at a fund raiser. Much like the Tea Party's political opponents can document contributions from and contact with the occasional segregationist, and the opponents of the Democratic party can document contributions from and contact with the occasional avowed Communist.

Such reports targeting anyone are usually "gotcha" reports intended to reinforce negative feelings with scare tactics.
 
So, Field Tester, what am I hinting at? I asked if anyone knew anything about Norquist and for that you rip me. Maybe you can expound in detail about why Norquist should be on the board.
 
I've heard some stupid theories in my day, and this one is probably near the top (but it's early yet, I'm sure there are better ones). That the man is willing to engage with Muslims means he likely has tangential relationships with a few crazies. Much like how I now have a tangential relationship with crazy people who think Norquist is a radical Muslim because I post on this website. :rolleyes:

TCB
 
Cololab, he/we is "hinting" you are a troll. Because you join and immediately post a trolly assertion five minutes' research outside Coast to Coast AM would disprove.

Oh, and welcome to the forum.

TCB
 
So, Field Tester, what am I hinting at? I asked if anyone knew anything about Norquist and for that you rip me. Maybe you can expound in detail about why Norquist should be on the board.
See that's not what this post is about though. You want to spread your little conspiracy theories, not have a conversation about the man's merits. You asked for confirmation. I suspect you actually want reinforcement.
Luckily the other members have seen through you.

Take your trash back to the stormfront forum.
 
Field Tester, you have no earthly idea of my motives for making my post and I wonder if you bothered to even look at the website I offered for all to review if they desired. Had you done so, you could offer an intelligent rebuttal to the article instead of launching a personal attack against me.

Yeah, I have a paltry two posts and so what? I suspect at one time everyone on this forum only had two posts also. Excuse me as I must have missed the rules that limit the topics about which a person with only two posts can comment.
 
Field Tester, you have no earthly idea of my motives for making my post and I wonder if you bothered to even look at the website I offered for all to review if they desired. Had you done so, you could offer an intelligent rebuttal to the article instead of launching a personal attack against me.

Yeah, I have a paltry two posts and so what? I suspect at one time everyone on this forum only had two posts also. Excuse me as I must have missed the rules that limit the topics about which a person with only two posts can comment.
Sorry if I seem a bit suspicious of a website called Understanding The Threat, as well as the content on said site. I actually did some independent research on this individual on quite a few different sites, you know ones that don't suspect the President of being a secret evil Muslim.

I don't see how one could offer a rebuttal to your racist undertones beyond what I have done. Hooray for me. I shall pat myself on the back later.
You started off this post in one direction but couldn't control your obvious distaste for those who associate with Muslims. I encourage you to look up who owns this site. Perhaps we will see another conspiracy post with his name involved as well.
Maybe if you had waited a few posts before revealing your true intentions, you might have been able to troll a few of us. But alas your eagerness got ahead of you.

As to your last post. It's not the quantity of the posts, but rather the quality of content, of which you have none.
But this has been fun, we should do it again sometime.
 
Nothing else for you.

For anyone else with any interest and less of a closed mind, the website in my first post purportedly outlines allegations about Norquist that were made by Michael Mukasey, 81st Attorney General of the United States who served under President George W. Bush.
 
For anyone else with any interest and less of a closed mind, the website in my first post purportedly outlines allegations about Norquist that were made by Michael Mukasey, 81st Attorney General of the United States who served under President George W. Bush.

i find no evidence that Mukasey made any such accusations.

This troll may be affiliated with NAGR; the NRA hating organization run by Dudley Brown.
 
Nothing else for you.

For anyone else with any interest and less of a closed mind, the website in my first post purportedly outlines allegations about Norquist that were made by Michael Mukasey, 81st Attorney General of the United States who served under President George W. Bush.
I can direct you to a whole host of websites that purport to reveal all sorts of things. It doesn't take much vetting to cobble together a website and spout all sorts of nonsense.

I think I'm going to buy stock in Reynolds Aluminum because their fine product is in such demand from hatmakers these days.
 
Take a few minutes break from the derisive troll comments and go to the centerforsecuritypolicy.org site that is linked to the website I initially posted. Look at the Feb. 11, 2014 posting. There you will find a letter signed by former Attny, Gen. Michael Mukasey, Former CIA Director R. James Woolsey, Lt. Col. Allen B. West, Adm. James Lyons, Lt. Gen. William Boykin, DoD IG Joseph Schmitz, former Asst U.S. Attorney Andrew C. McCarthy and others who support Frank Gaffney in his allegations about Norquist and his purported involvement with radical Muslim factions.
 
Cololab, remember when someone said you just came here for reinforcement and to peddle your theories? You respond with reference to some made up letter you are still trying to bait us over to your site to read.

Norquist is Public Enemy #1 for the nation's largest political party (and second, and possibly third). If he was some fifth columnist, someone cleverer than you or a website would be on it by now.

Might try a new site name "One Weird Trick for Trolling Gun Nuts" and peddle it over on the Moms Demand Action forum --you'll have much better luck.

TCB
 
You might try taking a crowbar and opening your mind instead of taking continued shots at me. Amazing how you can know what is on a website and so positively dismiss it without bothering to look at it. BTW, I have no connection with either of the websites and I'll happily match my NRA pedigree against yours

Whether there is any merit to the assertions about Norquist should seemingly be the issue here.
 
There has always been a lot of junk claims and misinformation out there -- from the Bermuda Triangle to ancient astronauts to the earth being flat, to the Holocaust deniers to the folks who believe that the moon landing was phony, and on and on. And the Internet has made is so easy to put lousy and bogus claims into circulation -- all dressed up on pretty websites with neat colors and impressive graphics.

Then folks with a lot of preconceived notions look at those claims through the distorting lens of confirmation bias and lap the stuff up. Sources, including poster on an Internet forum, need to establish credibility. ANd fringe news outlets are inherently not credible.

So I've always been guided by what Carl Sagan used to say, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

So far cololab has provide no evidence that would lead me to give his outlandish contentions a second thought.
 
This one should've been closed as soon as it started, as it's not a topic appropriate for Activism.

Cololab, I direct you to the sticky at the top of the page, but in summary, Activism's not the place to discuss politics or to gain support for your conspiracy theory. Below is an edited summary of what Activism is and is not:

How this forum works (emphasis on WORK). READ THIS BEFORE POSTING! said:
Activism is not a politics forum.

It is not for blind "FYI" posts, or musings/rants, or negative comments, or absurd hair shirt posturing.

Activism is about what you've actually done or what you propose we all practically do to affect change on behalf of RKBA so that others can follow your lead.

This is not the place to debate ideas, politics, or politicians. This the place to outline action to be taken.

This is not the place to use RKBA as the excuse to promote a broader social or political agenda. STAY FOCUSED!

This is where we present practical effective actions we actually have carried out or action we want to carry out to make change happen.
 
cololab,

I followed the links as well as did a good bit of independent reading outside of them. I also reviewed the standing of the sites you referenced and that they referenced. You should discount them as being nutjob sites and circulating circular information mostly originated with the notorious Mr. Gafney. When you follow the references back beyond the recirculating regurgitating miasma you find nothing in the ultimate source material from the Chicago Tribune, NYT, etc. that implicates Mr. Norquist any more than President Bush.

I suggest you spend the time to fact check the sources and to view them with a bit of skepticism and dig deeper than a couple of layers and you'll find that there's no foundation for such accusations.
 
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