can anybody recomend a scope and mount combo for a 7.62 sagia? good for 100 yrds

Unless you've got vision issues, you should have no problems keeping it within 6" at 100 yards, let alone on paper, with the irons.

How are your fundamentals?

There are plenty of scopes out there, which will help you see better, but none of them are going to help you if your fundamentals are shaky.

I agree with "Inebrated", better to work on your fundamental shooting skills.
All saigas I'm familiar with have been dead-nuts accurate right out of the box, especially shooting from a rest, and at only 100 yards.
That rifle will probably take out beer cans from that distance,without even trying very hard. The AK's infamous "inaccuracy" has been over-blown, they are plenty accurate for the distances and targets they were designed for, and I've found the Saigas to be particularly tight,straight shooters.
Also, in the experience of myself and numerous others, the scope rail system on the AK's isn't the most stable and accurate. I've been through Russian PSOP scopes with the intgrated mount,as well as standard AK mounts with regular scopes, and never been happy with the results, and just went back to irons.
I would suggest shooting, from a rest again, but at a large sheet of cardboard. If you're getting good groups, but aren't hitting exactly where you're aiming, then it's a sight adjustment issue that's an easy fix. If you're all over the paper, it's probably your skills that need refining.
You might also try some different ammo, but I'm betting that won't be the issue.

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=433

Best AK mount available that allows you to keep the rest of your rifle intact. Takes a couple seconds to remove/install. Not cheap, but you pay for quality. As for optics, anything in the 1-6x range is good for an AK. I use a 2x-5x myself.

You can't hit anything because you aren't holding the rifle right. Get rid of the 2x4s and shoot off a sand filled bag. Rest the fore end in your hand on top of the bag. Pull the butt stock firmly into your shoulder. Sight in the target and squeeze the trigger.

Hitting 10 inch plates at 200 yards should be relatively easy with proper ammo and technique.

Good luck

M

What M1key said, rest on something soft. The side mount shown is good but I paid about $50 for mine and it works well. I can't remember the brand. With decent ammo, brass case American, you should get about 3 MOA. I agree that Saigas are more accurate than most AK rifles.

With these 65 year old eyes I can still manage to shoot the Saiga pretty well with iron sights. So, there's hope for you. LOL If an optic will help you, go for it. I do use the UTG mounted red dot on mine.

M

So nearsightedness... that means you can't focus further out, right?

If that's the case, then I'd recommend using a target that you can see well at 100 yards. You should always be focusing on the front sight post, but using a target you actually can see will do a lot for you. So if you can focus far enough to the front sight post, and see that nice and clear, you should be able to get some solid groups. Try that, let us know how it goes. Just recently, AKOU had a video where they got a ~2" with irons, and a target designed specifically for the AK. Definitely worth checking out.

Now, per your request for an optic.... defensive use, or just the range? Budget for the optic AND the mount (which can be pricey on AK's)?

Did you have your rear sight set at 100m or "U"? U is the 0-300m setting intended for minute of Sasquatch accuracy. Using sandbags, ensure the rifle is zeroed at 25m on the 100m setting as the bullet POI is the same at 25/100m. I prefer to partially cover 1/2 the target with the post rather than the sight picture align the target on top of the post. YMMV

The MI is good (shameless plug, I'm looking to sell my Strike Fire II and MI 30mm side mount.... you know... if you're interested).

I would check out a Weaver K4... no it isn't tactical or illuminated or anything, but it is a fixed 4x that is inexpensive (around $160), and it's one of the most common scopes around here for hunting guns. Everyone and their brother has one, and they work well for their price. Weaver also makes a 1-4x Kaspa for like $10 more. I don't know how it stacks up with the K4, but I imagine it would do what you want.

I have a Kaspa and am not sure I like it, not as good as another Weaver I have. If you have vision problems maybe a decent scope is all you need.

I prefer to put the Russian style scopes on those types of rifles. Kalinka sells them IIRC.

Some trigger work really helps them if the trigger is rough or heavy. That is also worth a look. You can improve it a lot yourself if you take some time. Or, buy an aftermarket one.