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jell-dog
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RussellC,
Great shooting!
I am definitely going to try your load data!
Hopefully I can hit the target as well as you
JD
It is the stuff for 9mm. I need more! This suggested round is 1.125 Oal, and my gun usually likes a little longer OAL. I want to try 1.145-1.160 lengths. But I can not complain about this round. Ask Potatohead, I think it surprised him as well!RussellC,
Great shooting!
I am definitely going to try your load data!
Hopefully I can hit the target as well as you
JD
Russellc
jell-dog
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BE-86 with Bayou Bullets Hi-Tech Coated 380 Auto 105 Gr. FP
BE-86 with Bayou Bullets Hi-Tech Coated 380 Auto 105 Gr. FP
CAUTION: The following post includes loading data tested in my guns chambered for this cartridge.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.
Basic info: Using the format began by Artofgolf, mstreddy, bds, and many other contributors of load data, here are the guidelines I will be using:
7 yards, standing, open sights, no pistol rest, target has 1/2" grid lines, 5 rounds at each powder weight.
I will be shooting a BERSA FIRESTORM 380 with 3 1/2" barrel for all range work.
My definition of Good Accy is 1.5" group or less.
My definition of Fair Accy is over 1.5" group up to 1.75" group.
My definition of Poor Accy is is over 1.75" group.
My definition of Flyers is shooter error, not holding steady on target, so I will give my opinions on accuracy based on best of 4 out of 5 shots where there are obvious Flyers outside the group.
LOAD# 009_BE-86, 3.8gr, CCI500, mixed brass, OAL 0.950" Using Bayou Bullets Hi-Tech Coated 380 Auto 105 Gr. FP( http://www.bayoubullets.net/380-auto-105-gr-fp-500-ct/ ) Mod/Snappy recoil, Good Accy., Group 1.5" ALL 5 shots inside the 1.5" Group.
The OAL 0.950" was arrived at because that is the point at which the case covered the crimp groove.
In the photo insert, you may be able to see why there is not much, if any, room to adjust the COL.
I couldn't really change the COL longer without uncovering the crimp groove, or shorter as I would seat the bullet below it's shoulder into the brass.
I was very pleasantly surprised with the accuracy of this load, all rounds functioned perfectly.
The felt recoil was what I would call "Moderately Snappy" or "Mildly Hot".
I have marked this load for further testing, maybe backing off the powder load 0.1gr, the load @ 3.6gr was fair, about a 2.0"group, but the extra 0.2gr really
tightened that group up.
I like my little green ZOMBIE KILLERS
JD
BE-86 with Bayou Bullets Hi-Tech Coated 380 Auto 105 Gr. FP
CAUTION: The following post includes loading data tested in my guns chambered for this cartridge.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.
Basic info: Using the format began by Artofgolf, mstreddy, bds, and many other contributors of load data, here are the guidelines I will be using:
7 yards, standing, open sights, no pistol rest, target has 1/2" grid lines, 5 rounds at each powder weight.
I will be shooting a BERSA FIRESTORM 380 with 3 1/2" barrel for all range work.
My definition of Good Accy is 1.5" group or less.
My definition of Fair Accy is over 1.5" group up to 1.75" group.
My definition of Poor Accy is is over 1.75" group.
My definition of Flyers is shooter error, not holding steady on target, so I will give my opinions on accuracy based on best of 4 out of 5 shots where there are obvious Flyers outside the group.
LOAD# 009_BE-86, 3.8gr, CCI500, mixed brass, OAL 0.950" Using Bayou Bullets Hi-Tech Coated 380 Auto 105 Gr. FP( http://www.bayoubullets.net/380-auto-105-gr-fp-500-ct/ ) Mod/Snappy recoil, Good Accy., Group 1.5" ALL 5 shots inside the 1.5" Group.
The OAL 0.950" was arrived at because that is the point at which the case covered the crimp groove.
In the photo insert, you may be able to see why there is not much, if any, room to adjust the COL.
I couldn't really change the COL longer without uncovering the crimp groove, or shorter as I would seat the bullet below it's shoulder into the brass.
I was very pleasantly surprised with the accuracy of this load, all rounds functioned perfectly.
The felt recoil was what I would call "Moderately Snappy" or "Mildly Hot".
I have marked this load for further testing, maybe backing off the powder load 0.1gr, the load @ 3.6gr was fair, about a 2.0"group, but the extra 0.2gr really
tightened that group up.
I like my little green ZOMBIE KILLERS
JD
Potatohead
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Heck yea. Still the best group Ive ever shot with a pistol. Hell it might be the best group Ive shot including rifle since I so rarely shoot my 223.
Artofgolf
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Welcome, oldmike
BE-86 is becoming a popular powder with THR members that have tried it.
You've made a good choice
BE-86 is becoming a popular powder with THR members that have tried it.
You've made a good choice
splattergun
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Saw a couple 8lb kegs of BE-86 at the LGS yesterday, but no 1 or 4 pounders. I would love to try it, but I can't bring myself to buy 8 lbs until I decide if I like it.
Buy it. I bought 1 pound with the same logic....trust me buy the 8 pounder, NOW!
I understand that it only comes in 1 and 8 pound jugs
My dealer just got me an 8lb jug for $18/lb and I'm going to work up some .39Spl IDPA loads for 125 and 158 grain bullets to see which I like better...been loading with WST (down to ~ 2lbs) and Titegroup (just started on an 8lb jug)
jell-dog
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39SPL for when 38spl just won't do?
Please let us know how your workup loads turn out!
Seriously, there have been only a few loads worked up for 39spl, ooops, sorry, I meant 38spl.
We all want to know the where BE-86 works the best.
Respectfully,
JD
cswpsi
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Took some 38Spl test loads to the range earlier this month (sorry, no chrono data). Charges 4.6, 4.8, 5.0, COL 1.440, fired from a S&W Model 66 at 10 yards.
XTreme 158gn Plated SWC
Starline brass
CCI SP No. 500
Alliant BE-86
4.6 was the least accurate and there was a little residue. Very little perceived recoil.
At 5.0 the recoil was more noticeable, but very manageable. 5.0 was also the most accurate and very clean.
XTreme 158gn Plated SWC
Starline brass
CCI SP No. 500
Alliant BE-86
4.6 was the least accurate and there was a little residue. Very little perceived recoil.
At 5.0 the recoil was more noticeable, but very manageable. 5.0 was also the most accurate and very clean.
Hey...the "9" is right next to the "8"39SPL for when 38spl just won't do?
anothernewb
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Well... all things being equal. I have a revolver with an abnormally large bore - it likes lead at least .359, if not .36 so 39 special works for me! lol.
Mule
Member
Alliant Reloader,
"Unique burn rate"
How about some 20 gauge load data??
Unique is still unobtainium around here.
"Unique burn rate"
How about some 20 gauge load data??
Unique is still unobtainium around here.
I'm new here and I've been following this thread with a lot of interest.
I'd like to see more coverage with this powder on cast lead bullets, especially in the larger calibers not often reported. If BE-86's usage will provide good light to mid-range performance in the larger calibers (.41mag, .44 Special, .44mag, etc) as the Alliant website may suggest, this powder will make many of us very, very happy.
It will likely be a while before BE-86 begins showing up in the more common reloading data books, and IMHO, it's ultimate usage acceptance and popularity is going to be determined by data that includes starting and max loadings as well as pressure findings.
The reports provided so far are favorable enough that I bought an 8# jug. I hope the outstanding contributors to this thread will continue to experiment and provide their on-going analysis. So far this thread is the best preliminary user testing available on the net.
I'd like to see more coverage with this powder on cast lead bullets, especially in the larger calibers not often reported. If BE-86's usage will provide good light to mid-range performance in the larger calibers (.41mag, .44 Special, .44mag, etc) as the Alliant website may suggest, this powder will make many of us very, very happy.
It will likely be a while before BE-86 begins showing up in the more common reloading data books, and IMHO, it's ultimate usage acceptance and popularity is going to be determined by data that includes starting and max loadings as well as pressure findings.
The reports provided so far are favorable enough that I bought an 8# jug. I hope the outstanding contributors to this thread will continue to experiment and provide their on-going analysis. So far this thread is the best preliminary user testing available on the net.
Man that BE-86 burns clean!
While shooting .45 the other day, I broke out the 9mm G17, had a bunch of the 124 grain 5.5 @1.120" BE-86 loads in the range bag. Surprising accurate, and having only shot BE-86 loads on this trip, (about 175 or so) the gun was way surprisingly clean! Usually I shoot a bunch of Unique loads as well, and gun is WAY dirty. In fairness, thats after a big glob of rounds...but the "BE-86 only" day was surprising indeed in terms of cleanliness.
I need an 8 pounder of this stuff, but would settle for a passle of 1 pounders. Accurate and clean!
Russellc
While shooting .45 the other day, I broke out the 9mm G17, had a bunch of the 124 grain 5.5 @1.120" BE-86 loads in the range bag. Surprising accurate, and having only shot BE-86 loads on this trip, (about 175 or so) the gun was way surprisingly clean! Usually I shoot a bunch of Unique loads as well, and gun is WAY dirty. In fairness, thats after a big glob of rounds...but the "BE-86 only" day was surprising indeed in terms of cleanliness.
I need an 8 pounder of this stuff, but would settle for a passle of 1 pounders. Accurate and clean!
Russellc
Alliant has some data, and if you call in with a particular use question, I am sure someone would guide/make some suggestions for you. There is someone from Alliant that is on this thread, you might try a PM or post here. Whatever, post your results, this thread is becoming the go to BE-86 information portal....
Russellc
I finally had a chance to try my 147g loaded up with a soft load (3.9g) of BE-86. Grouped nicely and the brass fell at my feet. Definatly a great plinking round. Too cold to chrono. Only major difference I veered from was the OAL. Most specs say to load at 1.130. I wasn't happy with my groupings so I shortened it up to 1.10. Made a huge difference.
Artofgolf
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So I was in my LGS looking for UUO(ununobtainium, aka unique) and of course it was not to be found.
But they did have 8 lbs jugs of BE-86. I took a gamble and picked one up for $133. If I can get the results reported, I think I scored at ~$16.62/lb Depending how it goes, I will grab a second jug if I can.
But they did have 8 lbs jugs of BE-86. I took a gamble and picked one up for $133. If I can get the results reported, I think I scored at ~$16.62/lb Depending how it goes, I will grab a second jug if I can.
If you have a local Bass Pro, they have it in 1 pound right now. If you pick it up at the store, no Hazmat or shipping.
Russellc
How much are 1#'ers going for at BPS?
They had a few single pounds where I went. But, after reading the reviews, I was willing to take the gamble. Plus I was down to my last 1/2 lb of unique and haven't seen it or any other pistol powders I want in stock for months. It'd really annoy me to buy a pound or two of BE-86, find out I really like it, develop a load, and then run out for months again...
They had a few single pounds where I went. But, after reading the reviews, I was willing to take the gamble. Plus I was down to my last 1/2 lb of unique and haven't seen it or any other pistol powders I want in stock for months. It'd really annoy me to buy a pound or two of BE-86, find out I really like it, develop a load, and then run out for months again...
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