9mm is too snappy.

Zerodefect · Mar 1, 2015

Any other big bore shooter noticing this?

I dropped 9mm from my collection years ago. .40, .45, and J frame .38's only now. Maybe I'm used to the fit of my pistols, or am used to the boom recoil of the .45.

When I help a newb out with grip or troubleshooting their pistol. I'm startled that some 9mm's are quite snappy. I actually prefer the boom and kick of the larger guns.

Maybe it's the height over bore relationship. This weekend I shot someones Ruger P95 to show them how it's reliable when you grip it properly. (they were holding it low, like a revolver) I started out with that pistol, and have forgotten how crappy it shoots. I think it may be the combination of the smaller round and lighter recoil springs. I don't notice this phenomena with gen 3 Glocks, possibly because 9mm and .40 had the same recoil spring. Try a stiffer fresh recoil spring maybe?

Maybe my Glocks and 1911's are just plain superior, compared to the odd collection of guns brought to me. But I find myself thinking, If a 9mm is this jumpy, why not just use a .40 or .357Sig? People bash .40 for being too snappy, but I can't help but think it might just be the pistol platforms fault, 9mm feels kind of annoying to me after years or .40 and .45. I'm more recoil sensitive with a 9mm than a similar sized and weighted .45.

Could just be the ergo's of my pistols, and muscle memory getting used to them, vs. a 9mm I've never shot before.

huntershooter · Mar 1, 2015

9mm out of a 1911 or P-35 is not, what I would call "snappy". In fact, is a pussy cat from the 1911 and very manageable in the P-35.
I would fault your platform, not the caliber.

steelbird · Mar 1, 2015

Have you tried subsonic 147's? I find them to be less "snappy."

rswartsell · Mar 1, 2015

I'm surprised that you feel that 9mm is snappy and .40 is not. Other way around for me.

AK103K · Mar 1, 2015

Compared to the other, larger calibers, it is a pussy cat, even in its +P, +P+ ratings.

Of the 9, 40, 45, I always found the .40 to have the most perceived snappiest, as far as recoil and how the gun responded when fired. The 45 has the heaviest recoil, and for obvious reasons.

I shoot all of them, and Im noticeably faster at recovery and follow up shots with the 9mm's.

Creature · Mar 1, 2015

rswartsell wrote:

I'm surprised that you feel that 9mm is snappy and .40 is not. Other way around for me.

I had the very same thought.

notaglockfanboy · Mar 1, 2015

Maybe my Glocks and 1911's are just plain superior, compared to the odd collection of guns brought to me

To even put those two handguns in the same sentence with the word superior is an insult to John Moses Browning. Shame on you.

Creature · Mar 1, 2015

Maybe my Glocks and 1911's are just plain superior, compared to the odd collection of guns brought to me

Click to expand...

To even put those two handguns in the same sentence with the word superior is an insult to John Moses Browning. Shame on you.

...and there goes the thread.

notaglockfanboy · Mar 1, 2015

and there goes the thread.
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Probably.

bannockburn · Mar 1, 2015

Out of the same type of gun I have found the .40 to be much more snappier than the 9mm. version. When I take first time shooters to the range I usually start them out with a .22 semi-auto or revolver, then a full size 9mm., and let them finish with a full size .45 if they want (all of them have so far). Thus far o one has complained thus that a 9mm. has too much recoil, muzzle flip, or was just plain uncomfortable to shoot.

ivankerley · Mar 1, 2015

spent an afternoon shooting with a friend last year, far from expert but i shot an XD in .40 and a sig in 9mm, like a couple people posted the .40 was way snappier for me, maybe the platform etc. i shot way better with the 9mm
Gene

ATLDave · Mar 1, 2015

Feel's not real.

Hunter2011 · Mar 1, 2015

9mm is for sure snappy, in a small light pocket pistol, like my PT709. But if you shoot a lot then you do get used to it. I don't even flinch 1% more with it than I do when shooting my .22 pistols. Just shoot it a bit more, like in at least 60 rounds per session.

joem1945 · Mar 1, 2015

I like the big bores so after shooting S&W.460,(25 to 30 rounds),.44mag(50 rounds) the 9mm feels like a .22LR. Same with .38 spl.

jhb · Mar 1, 2015

Never thought of 9mm as snappy except in tiny pocket pistols like a pf9.

I have noticed if i go up in caliber i notice recoil. Say shooting a .22 then going to a 9mm. I notice the recoil. If i start on 9mm...then i don't. Add to that if i go from 9mm to .45 in a 1911....i do see your point as the .45 is less snappy for sure. More of a firmer push.

If i start with a .40 or .357sig...then shoot 9mm.....9mm feels very mild and almost no snap at all.

I got no science to back any of that....its just my personal perception.

Girodin · Mar 1, 2015

Never thought of 9x19 as snappy unless you get down to the little bitty guns. Having owned and shot a few different models in both 9x19 and .40. I personally have always found it to be the snappier of the two.

I think a lot of it comes to down particular guns. Some guns are to my perception just softer shooting.

DT Guy · Mar 1, 2015

Always thought the .40 was 'snappiest', and I'm sort of amazed I know exactly what you mean by 'snappy.' It's not a word that's been well-defined...

Larry

il.bill · Mar 1, 2015

Sure, 9mm is 'snappy', when you shoot it from a KelTec P11.

Ankeny · Mar 1, 2015

Physics is physics. Going to a .40 S&W or .357 Sig to gat away from a snappy 9mm? I can't relate to that at all. How about you go shoot a G19, G23, and a G32 and get back to us. That way you are comparing the three calibers in the same platform?

MedWheeler · Mar 1, 2015

I thought my P95 was incredibly light and controllable in fire.. as is my Hi-Point C9 (a blowback pistol at that!)

My PF9, though..

Zerodefect · Mar 1, 2015

All Glocks and it feels fine. It's most noticeable going form a stiffly sprung Glock, to say an HK VP9 or softer sprung DA/SA pistol.

A sharper hit than .40 and .45, more like .357Sig. It just seems odd to me that I have developed a taste for a .40 recoil more than the 9mm.

Tallball · Mar 1, 2015

For me it's easy in a big steel pistol. It's got much more snap in a smaller lighter pistol.

AK103K · Mar 1, 2015

more like .357Sig.

9mm +P/ +P+ and 357SIG feel pretty much the same out of the same gun, and other than the 357's bark, I seriously doubt you could tell which was which. Standard, NATO 9mm is a little softer shooting, but also not all that much different.

Ive shot a fair amount of .40 out of similar model Glocks, and its definitely got more snap to it.

I shoot tens of thousands of rounds of 9mm each year out of a couple of Glocks, as well as a bunch of .40 and .45acp out of Glocks, SIG's and 1911's, and the 9mm is the softest shooter by far.

short barrel · Mar 1, 2015

I think easy recoil of the 9mm (compared to its energy) it what makes it such a great combat round. I very much prefer the .45, but certainly not because of the recoil.

ku4hx · Mar 1, 2015

Having cut my teeth on shooting Silhouettes with full house .357 Magnum/Maximum, full house .44 Magnum and pretty much the same for .454 Casull, the 9mm is definitely one of the poosy cats of semi autos. For the most part that's true for the entire current pack of semi auto favorites. Maybe not the .50AE Desert Eagle but then those are not exactly run-of-the-mill handguns.

9mm is too snappy.

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