Handgun that will eat ANTHING!!!

Walther PPX. Eats all, including Russian steel case. 9mm. I also carry a S&W Shield in 9mm and it has eaten everything.

PPX - just over 2000 rounds fired

Shield - about 700 rounds fired

stchman said:

Really, usually Sig people won't put anything but match grade ammo in their Sigs.

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Only match grade ammo in a sig? I must be different. I put what ever ammo i find down my sigs. Herters, wolf, any steel cased ammo. And very wide range of reloads. In thousands and thousands of rounds. Never had a hiccup

Robbins290 said:

Only match grade ammo in a sig? I must be different. I put what ever ammo i find down my sigs. Herters, wolf, any steel cased ammo. And very wide range of reloads. In thousands and thousands of rounds. Never had a hiccup

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I thought surely he must be kidding. All my Sig firearms are probably the least particular. I certainly don't shoot trash ammo (define that yourself or insert garage sale home loads) but I do shoot plenty of low cost local factory ammo.

Hopefully he was kidding, it's either that or reverse snobbery.
I shoot the cheapest avaliable ammo possible in my Sig, and it never fails.

In general, Sigs have been very good IME. In 9mm you can't beat a P226 for feed reliability, But my .45 auto P220 struggled with SWCs, so did my Glock 30 (plated and jacketed SWCs).

In .45 auto I think HK is the most reliable brand. SWCs, TCs, JHPs, everything feeds fine in a USP or HK45/45c. I haven't tried lead in my HK yet, but I wouldn't be afraid to use a good cast bullet in a pinch.

My Ruger P95 has fed anything and everything I've put in it, including some very old, very questionable handloads. I believe Ruger stopped making them recently, but I bought mine new for $300 out the door about 6 years ago. I imagine you can find a used one for around that price or less.

That said, all ammo has to be reasonably within spec to work.

OilyPablo said:

I thought surely he must be kidding. All my Sig firearms are probably the least particular. I certainly don't shoot trash ammo (define that yourself or insert garage sale home loads) but I do shoot plenty of low cost local factory ammo.

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I am just kidding, I know a guy that won't let steel case ammo anywhere near his Sig.

JeeperCreeper said:

Long story short...I have a large (very, very, very, very large) collection of 9x19mm and 45 ACP handloads that I inherited from my grandfather a few years ago.

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I haven't read all the replies, but I'd be hesitant (very, very, very hesitant) about shooting someone else's handloads, no matter how well you knew them. I've heard of incidents where people have popped other people's handloads into their guns only to have the gun turn into a hand grenade. Sometimes the handloader, if he suspects he's got an excess (or bad) load, will put it aside with other questionable loads. These loads can work their way back into the pool of other loads and can (and have) ruined peoples day.

A friend of mine passed and his wife gave me his handloaded ammo. After finding some cartridges with cracked cases (something I knew my friend would never shoot), I just got rid of the entire bunch. I didn't want to flinch every time I shot from his loads. And though Ruger has a reputation for strength in its revolvers, I would hate to shoot double charged rounds in my guns.

However, my ParaOrdnance P14 1911 .45 struggles with anything that is not factory ammo. My Ruger Blackhawk .45 convertible even has a hard time squeezing the .45 ACP rounds out quickly. In 9mm, my Star 30M (my go-to beater pistol) has even choked on a few of the 9mm rounds that have no less than crippled any other mortal firearms. My question to you all is: what autoloader can digest any type of round you can throw in it??

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• Smith & Wesson 645/4506
• Smith & Wesson 659/5906
• Beretta 92
• Glocks (which I despise)
• Sig Saur
• Taurus PT92

Many guns nowadays shoot just fine. I think Glocks are overly dangerous and some jam when they're limp-wristed, though the new ones don't have that problem. And 1911 models are iffy and can range from "needs work" to absolute reliability.



Smith & Wesson 645 (top) and 5906.



Smith & Wesson 659 and 20-round clip.



Butt ugly and economical, but very reliable, this Smith 457 is a winner.



My Taurus PT92 not only is drop dead gorgeous, it's exceptionally reliable and
accurate. I'm not a big fan of Taurus, but this gun is a huge exception.
It's also got a rail, which I never use, and can be carried cocked and locked.

Any of the ruger P series pistols..

My Glock 19 Gen 4 has run the shadiest, dirtiest, surplus-iest, funkiest, hottest, loudest, steel case-iest, aluminum case-iest, brass case-iest, ever made or dug up and has eaten them all with aplomb.

All my 3rd Gen Smiths will eat anything, including empty cases.

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My experience as well. Even the stubby little CS45 isn't finicky. The 4506 has run everything from .45 GAP rounds to top .45 Super loads.

Smith and wesson third gen guns

especially the 4506, 4516, 4566 yada, yada, yada. I had a 4515-1 and it would indeed feed empty cases. The same goes for the 645 and the 4586 that I currently own. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if their 9mm's would do the same. The only problem is your cartridges could be out of spec. If the case has been stretched too much you would need to pull the bullets and trim the cases. If the bullets are seated too far out, and I doubt that is the problem, you could just set them back a little in a reloader. If they are not sized properly you can probably still resize them while loaded.

I need to get one of those S&W 3rd gen guns.

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Yes, you do!

No respectable collection is complete without one! They are honestly about as close as you can get to indestructible in a production autoloader. I have six, many more on the want list.

Never had a single malfunction with my CZ 75

Okay, how about a voice of common sense... Don't shoot the ammo. Pull it into components.

You don't know what you have, you don't know how it was loaded but you do know it's troublesome in the guns you have.

Save your fingers.

I had a Ruger P345 that I didn't like. However I kept it around to chew up any ammo that choked my 1911s or XD45. Nothing stopped it.

.45 ACP That Will Eat Anything ?

If I understand correctly, you want a .45 ACP that will function with dirt, sand, grit, and overall detritus in its mechanism. I feel sure some can suggest certain revolvers (OK "wheelguns" for you Texicans), but I will limit my remarks to semi-autos.

Firstly, what you describe is called a "mudder", which is one of the reasons the Colt (Browning) 1911 was developed and adopted by the USA as its main sidearm over 100 years ago. Noting its current popularity, that's impressive.

The WWII 1911's aren't cheap since they're collectors items, but they are mudders. I owned one.

A current day moderately priced 1911 mudder is the Rock Island Armory GI model.

The HiPoint .45 is a modestly priced possibility (although not a 1911).
My HiPoint 9mm carbine has functioned under extreme conditions.

SIG and other modern day semis have been mentioned, but I like the "old" favorites, including S&W.

Never make rash promises. I said if S&W ever made a .45 ACP auto, I'd buy one. I never did, but many have sworn by them. I don't know.

Good fortune in your quest !

Springfield XDM in 9 or 45. I've got both and they both have fed everything I put thru them without a problem. Excellent reliable pistols

Old post I know and many others have already said it but, my 4506-1 is a 45acp garbage disposal. I get lots of free range ammo including factory loads from friends with high dollar 1911's that just won't feed some bullets, especially certain hollowpoints. It was my service weapon back in the Sheriff's dept. and our Sheriff hung onto them as the only issue weapon well into 2004.

The problem with the Blackhawk is that it doesnt use moon clips... the cylinder has a ledge that the casing rests on. The ammo is reloaded which has caused the brass to be slightly lengthened. This causes the brass to grind slightly on my Ruger when the cylinder rotates... which makes me nervous. Not sure if that makes sense, but without dropping about $700 on another .45 or 9mm revolver that takes moonclips(I'm a poor grad student, which means I'm a poor college kid with bigger bills), I am SOL.

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Hate to tell ya this, but the moon clips are only for extraction. The cylinder chambers still have a ridge, as do auto pistols, for head spacing on the case mouth. I had a Smith and Wesson M1917 in .45ACP for a while. I shot it, usually, without the moon clips because the moon clips were a pain to unload and reload. I could usually just pluck the rounds out of the cylinders with my finger nails and I loading 'em light in that old war horse. It didn't work too well with lead bullets, though. Seemed to have very shallow rifling, whether done at the factory or just worn I don't know, but it preferred bullets with jackets. So, I got rid of it. BUT, you cannot get away from that ridge in the cylinder, it's there to head space the round, be it a DA or SA gun.

I do own a Ruger KP90DC. Not only will it feed and function with damned near ANYTHING, but it's near match grade accurate. I also have a VERY reliable P85 in 9x19. I've hung on to these guns. I shoot 'em very well and they're so danged reliable, just hard to beat. I don't like striker fired guns, either, prefer decocking DAs hammer fired. They're getting rare as hen's teeth now days. Everyone seems to be going with striker guns.

Ruger LCRs iin 9x19 can be had down here for under 500 bucks. I don't think you can get much more reliable, either.

You already eliminated probably the only brand that will do what you want.

Torture test

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462537&highlight=torture+test

Good luck with anything else.