J-Bar
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Maybe they don't need firearms...when Mom saw her son looting, she took action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgzGXM2Dqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgzGXM2Dqo
This is what happened yesterday at a friend of mine son’s restaurant downtown Baltimore across from Camden Yards. Is this how law bidding citizens react when thing do not go their way. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yktyADnCg8
Thanks Ron. We are fine here as we are a good 9-10 miles from all the trouble. There have been threats made to the suburbs and we are only 4 miles from the city line. Just being a good boy scout and being prepared. Hopefully things will quiet down now. It's a real shame that the rest of the world sees Baltimore as they are now. Sad. Sad.
Hope to see you and Kathy in Branson in June. We missed you guys last year.
Semper Fi,
Bob
thats what insurance is for....
For home defense, are shotguns and rifles hard to obtain?Being an ex Balitimore/Annapolis resident, I can tell you that it is extremely difficult. This is a state where even residents can only legally transport their firearms to a few localities:Target shooting and a gun shop for repair is about it. And cased at that.
Getting a permit to carry is probably more difficult than New Jersey and only Hawaii is tougher.
As a result, many Marylander's give up on even attempting to acquire a gun for home or business protection. Living there in the misnamed Free State is an absolute trial.
thats what insurance is for....
im pretty sure nothing in my shop would be worth killing over...or risk dying for.....
Good point! It's interesting how some fantasize about "protecting their businesses" including killing rioters. I think they have those Los Angeles' Korean American Grocers' video clips on DVD...
They never stop to think what would have happened to those grocers had they actually fired and hit some of the rioting thugs. Then maybe the fantasy wouldn't be so romantic in their minds.
As sickening as rioting thugs can be, taking human life (and risking one's own lives and those of other friendlies) to protect material goods is pretty sicko and illogical when it comes down to it. I think some do it in a sordid attempt to burnish their manhood.
Wow, thats a pretty offensive blanket condemnation of people who may have serious emotional ties to their life's work, their life's savings, and their livelihood. If you ever got to know some of those Koreans, and what they survived and went through to later start those businesses here, you'd maybe have a little more respect for their decisions to protect their businesses, instead of ridiculing them.
So tell me, if the house and barns that my great great great grandfather and his sons built by hand were about to be burned by brigands, heathens or just plain sub-humans what percentage of the sentimental value will insurance cover? Could insurance replace the saddle my Grandpa took off the horse my Great Grandfather decided to spring break and was killed after getting thrown? That saddle has been on that rafter since 1959, the leather is rotted and it's not worth a dime to anyone. However, my brother, sisters and I were threatened with corporal punishment if we attempted to even touch it. How about the old pistol hanging on Dad's wall? Along with the pencil scrawled note signed W T Sherman? Would insurance replace that? What about the set of knives I helped my uncle hand forge? Can insurance reassemble his ashes, breathe life into him so he can make me another? Or perhaps the flags presented to the family at over a hundred year's worth of funerals, could insurance recover the reverence of their display if scum were to drag them through the dirt? At what point, to what treasure, can you sit forward in your comfortable chair and nod in agreement that it's eminent destruction would provoke a reasonable person to return violence for violence?
true...not all items can be replaced....and you certainly cannot replace sentimental value....
but are you seriously willing to actually take another persons life, open yourself up to potential legal hassle, and possibly face murder charges and spend your life in prison....to protect an inanimate object?.....
hell, you only have so many shots.....what if a pack of looters attacks you, and you run out of ammo and are over powered?......are you willing to risk death or serious injury to protect an inanimate object?.....i dunno, maybe you are......
i dont enjoy the thought of having to kill someone....to me, using deadly force is a last resort, and only when i feel my life or the life of someone else is in eminent danger........despite how much sentimental or monetary value an object may have, i do not consider the use of deadly force appropriate....
....your mileage may vary......
“I have a dream!
To be free at last!
Free at last!
Free at last.
And if a man has nothing to die for,
Then his life is worth nothing.”
"Thank you sir! Generally those that have the "insurance will pay for it" got their possession pretty cheap to begin with"
Fair enough, but since the vast majority of us aren't wealthy enough to have possessions worth more than our own lives, they tend to take precedence over material goods. I would also argue that your line of thinking stems from not losing much/all of the same valuable objects due to circumstance as happens, again, to the vast majority of folks out there. Poverty, illness, acts of God, injustice, inheritance, law, rot and rust rob an awful lot of people of their possessions across generations, prized or valuable. A centuries old estate is one heck of an exception, and worth defending, but almost no one has one.
TCB
Since "black lives matter" let me quote a man "tried and true" that happened to be negro...
Quote:
“I have a dream!
To be free at last!
Free at last!
Free at last.
And if a man has nothing to die for,
Then his life is worth nothing.”
In a way, he was.Yeah....I'm pretty sure MLK wasn't talking about your flat screen TV and your antique hummel set when he said that.....
If you are indeed so poor as to have nothing you are willing to die for, your poverty is indeed devastating. You have my sympathies.
Look, don't think I like MD's firearms rules. But let's at least get your facts straight.From DP03
"I actually filled out paperwork about an hour ago for my new CZ75 PCR. The state forms are no different than the federal forms that everyone must complete."
This is no where near the truth. In free states you fill out a 4473 and that is usually it. In md you have to have the HQL first (fingerprinted, photoed, training, fee to state, etc, then wait for it to come in the mail), fill out several extra md only forms from mental health to another md version of the 4473, then after months of waiting for the HQL to go through wait at least 8 additional days to get your weapon. Oh, and pay for an Omega lock if it's new and doesn't have an internal lock.
It is NOT like the rest of the nation in regards to handguns. I think you may have been lulled into thinking md is "normal".