Berry's Bullets

egd said:

What is the difference (pros and cons) of the HB hollow base vs the regular plated bullets. I know the TP is thick plated and can take more velocity, but what difference does the hollow base make?

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Pros: More bearing surface to stabilize the bullet.

Cons: A few bucks more per 1000.

Providing that the HB bullets' leading end has the same profile as the FB, the remaining case volume should be the same for both.

Copied from Berry's site.

Our Hollow Base allows the bullet to be longer and provides more contact area with the barrel and rifling which will stabilize the bullet and improve accuracy. The bullet profile is longer but the weight of the bullet remains the same and you can load these bullets using any published load data for a jacketed bullet as long as it is the same weight bullet.

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BCRider said:

I've also used oodles of them.

Take note of the FAQ on their website. They recommend using cast lead loading data instead of jacketed data. Also they recommend a light crimp only to avoid cutting into the plating and possibly causing it to separate in flight. For semi auto this is easy since you only want to straighten the case mouths or at most produce a very slight taper crimp. But for revolver loads where you might be used to stronger roll crimping into a cannelure groove you'll want to go for a lighter crimp where you just produce either no pinch or a barely noticeable amount of crimp indenting.

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You are incorrect sir!!
On BERRY'S FAQ for Load Data for BERRY'S Preferred Plated Bullets:

http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q21-c1-Load_Data_for_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx
IT CLEARLY STATES:

We recommend using hard cast load data or start with mid-range jacketed data. Make sure data is below 1250fps unless you are using a Thick-Plated bullet that we list a higher max velocity for like the 9mm 124gr HBRN-TP that can be shot to 1500fps in open class guns like a .38 Super. Keep in mind that since our plated bullet has the same pressure curve as a hard cast bullet, the published cast data will be very close to what you will get with our plated bullets. If you use Jacketed data with our plated bullets you can get from 5% - 8% increase in velocity using that data.

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NOTE THAT BERRY'S recommends using HARD CAST load data OR MID-RANGE JACKETED DATA!!

SO, you may want to re-read BERRY'S recommendations and pay attention to EVERYTHING contained in their load data FAQ page.

Stop spreading the MYTH that plated bullets can only be used with lead data.

ALSO, please provide a link to support your statement:

BCRider said:

Also they recommend a light crimp only to avoid cutting into the plating and possibly causing it to separate in flight. For semi auto this is easy since you only want to straighten the case mouths or at most produce a very slight taper crimp. But for revolver loads where you might be used to stronger roll crimping into a cannelure groove you'll want to go for a lighter crimp where you just produce either no pinch or a barely noticeable amount of crimp indenting.

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I agree that you only TAPER CRIMP pistol cartridges to ONLY REMOVE THE BELL.
In MY experience shooting 357mag revolver loads, their bullets are quality coated well enough that light to medium roll crimp DOES NOT compromise the plating, also in MY experience (several thousand 158gr flat point bullets ,http://www.berrysmfg.com/product-i14488-c13-g8-b0-p0-38_357_158gr_FP_1000ct.aspx
at near max loads, I have NOT had a failure of their copper plating.

Have a nice day!
JD

BigGame said:

ArtofGolf,... Do you know how to get the discount from RMR?

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PM sent, BigGame

I've used a ton of their 38 and 45s. Great bullets for the price. Just don't run them too hot and don't over crimp them.

sellersm said:

Looks like you're going to try some... I also like the RMR Bullets (Rocky Mountain Reloading), especially their thick plated and Match bullets!

For Berry's, you can order direct, or from Powder Valley, or try TJ Conevera.

No matter what you settle on, load 'em up and shoot!

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Ryan here from Rocky Mountain Reloading. Thank you so much for mentioning us. We have rebranded our RMR Thickly Plated bullets. They are now RMR Hardcore bullets. Hardcore refers to the harder lead at the core of our plated bullets.
shop.rmrbullets.com

Could someone send me the coupon code for RMR

BKReloader said:

Ryan here from Rocky Mountain Reloading. Thank you so much for mentioning us. We have rebranded our RMR Thickly Plated bullets. They are now RMR Hardcore bullets. Hardcore refers to the harder lead at the core of our plated bullets.
shop.rmrbullets.com

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Ryan, I see you have changed the name to Hardcore Match Round Nose Plated, but some bullets are listed as Hardcore Round Nose Match Plated What abbreviation do you use at your shop? HMRNP or HRNMP?

I shoot both the Berry's HB and your Hardcore bullets in 357sig. They are the only plated bullets so far I have been able to use in 357sig. No favorite yet since I am still evaluating.

Walkalong said:

"Currently published load data is limited to some calibers by Accurate, Western Powders and Hodgdon. We are working with these companies to get data published for all of our bullets."

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We no longer need to "guess" when loading Berry's plated bullets. Hodgdon website has load data for Berry's bullets under BERB - http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol

Website has 124 gr BERB HBRN TP load data for Clays, Titegroup, Titewad, PB, W231/HP-38, 700X, 800X, SR7625, SR4756, CFE Pistol, Universal, HS-6, AutoComp, WSF, Longshot

If I can't find published load data for plated bullets, as indicated by Berry's MFG, using lead and upto mid range jacketed load data has worked for me as regular plated bullets start to lose accuracy above mid range jacketed load data.

I've used the 9mm Berry's Thick Plated bullets since they came out with excellent results. I load some (124 HBRN-TP) to over 1200fps for my practice SD shooting. They shoot the same as my Speer Gold Dot loads. Speer GDs by the way are plated.
Berry's now is making actual SD versions in 40, 45 cal with 9mm production lagging behind.
Good bullets all.

Berry's bullets suggested col

Hi all!
I just received my Berry's Bullets catalog and it contained this "pull out" for Suggested BERRY'S BULLETS C.O.L.:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=210479&stc=1&d=1431624012

JD

I've used Berrys extensively in my 40s. Excellent bullet for general purposes.

Berrys are good. However, I in my .357's I can shoot JHP MontanaGold for about the same price if I buy them by the case.

I emailed RMR and asked how to get the 5% discount. They said to check with others on the forum to find out how to get the discount. Do you know how to get the discount from RMR?

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This is generally my response when I get emails about the 5% off coupon. The idea behind the coupon code was to reward those who are active on the forum or to get more people to participate. Looks like it worked in this case. Thanks guys for suggesting our company. We actually have about 15,000 124 grain Berry's 9mm in stock right now for those who may want to buy straight from us and get the 5% off coupon.

Berrys has great bullets. I use them in 9 calibers. Can't say nothing bad about them, other than j hate when the box runs out. Hahaha

red rick, the RMR 5% discount code is thehighroad5

I have shot 1,000s of Berry's in atleast 8 different calibers.
Love 'em all.

I've used thousands of Berry's bullets with great results. Bought them all from TJ Conevera. Never a problem with any of my orders - quick shipping, great communication.