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Minnesota Omnibus Public Safety Bill SF878. Governor Dayton has until Friday night to either sign, veto, or let the bill become law without his signature. He has stated that he'll veto the bill if it has the suppressor/silencer language in it.
He said that awhile ago. Not sure what he'll do now. If this becomes law it would be great. I would definitely be on the lookout for a suppressor or two.
The supporting arguments I've heard are that it isn't a silencer it's a suppressor, it only lowers the decibel rating, not make it completely silent and that it will help people who have hearing loss retain what hearing they have left.
The arguments against it are that more criminals will use them and that they will get impede law enforcement from solving cases as the 'Shot Spotter' system won't hear the gun shots.
I think pro-suppressor folks are missing a few points in their arguments:
1.) Not used in current crimes:
Suppressors are legal now in 39 states, so they are available. We have not seen any (that I know of) recorded murders involving a gun with a suppressor in Minnesota or really any other state. We have plenty of 'illegal guns' guns that are stolen or in the hands of criminals and if suppressors were commonly used in crimes we'd see plenty of 'illegal suppressors' also and we aren't.
Using a suppressor to assassinate someone is Hollywood movie crap.
2.) Suppressors aren't universal and can't just be put on any gun they need to have the proper threaded barrel:
A gun barrel has to have correct threaded barrel that matches the threading in the suppressor. The number of guns out there with threaded barrels is minute.
Most guns used in crimes are cheap guns, the Hi-Point being one of the most common. These guns aren't even manufactured with threaded barrels.
3.) It's nearly impossible to conceal a gun with a suppressor on it:
Despite James Bond having a 5 inch suppressor on his gun that's unrealistic. Suppressors are fairly long and large. It would make concealing a pistol with a suppressor far harder and that is the exact opposite of what most criminals want.
The majority of criminals want pistols that they can keep in their pants, pants pockets, jacket pockets, or hoodie main pockets and a pistol with with a suppressor would be nearly impossible to conceal.
4.) Suppressors are very common in other countries:
Suppressors lower sound and are common in many other civilized countries. It's considered rude to not have a suppressor on your gun as it's loud and effects the people shooting next to you and your neighbors.
Pro-suppressor folks should let these points be known in their debate on allowing suppressors in Minnesota.
I wrote Gov. Dayton today. We'll see what happens this Friday. I hope he signs the bill.
Anyone know what Gov. Dayton has said about signing the amended bill?
He said that awhile ago. Not sure what he'll do now. If this becomes law it would be great. I would definitely be on the lookout for a suppressor or two.
The supporting arguments I've heard are that it isn't a silencer it's a suppressor, it only lowers the decibel rating, not make it completely silent and that it will help people who have hearing loss retain what hearing they have left.
The arguments against it are that more criminals will use them and that they will get impede law enforcement from solving cases as the 'Shot Spotter' system won't hear the gun shots.
I think pro-suppressor folks are missing a few points in their arguments:
1.) Not used in current crimes:
Suppressors are legal now in 39 states, so they are available. We have not seen any (that I know of) recorded murders involving a gun with a suppressor in Minnesota or really any other state. We have plenty of 'illegal guns' guns that are stolen or in the hands of criminals and if suppressors were commonly used in crimes we'd see plenty of 'illegal suppressors' also and we aren't.
Using a suppressor to assassinate someone is Hollywood movie crap.
2.) Suppressors aren't universal and can't just be put on any gun they need to have the proper threaded barrel:
A gun barrel has to have correct threaded barrel that matches the threading in the suppressor. The number of guns out there with threaded barrels is minute.
Most guns used in crimes are cheap guns, the Hi-Point being one of the most common. These guns aren't even manufactured with threaded barrels.
3.) It's nearly impossible to conceal a gun with a suppressor on it:
Despite James Bond having a 5 inch suppressor on his gun that's unrealistic. Suppressors are fairly long and large. It would make concealing a pistol with a suppressor far harder and that is the exact opposite of what most criminals want.
The majority of criminals want pistols that they can keep in their pants, pants pockets, jacket pockets, or hoodie main pockets and a pistol with with a suppressor would be nearly impossible to conceal.
4.) Suppressors are very common in other countries:
Suppressors lower sound and are common in many other civilized countries. It's considered rude to not have a suppressor on your gun as it's loud and effects the people shooting next to you and your neighbors.
Pro-suppressor folks should let these points be known in their debate on allowing suppressors in Minnesota.
I wrote Gov. Dayton today. We'll see what happens this Friday. I hope he signs the bill.
Anyone know what Gov. Dayton has said about signing the amended bill?
