Shotgun Jam issues, Suggestions

What to do?

  • Sell it, be done and get somethign better.

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Ship it back to Browning for repair, something obviously wrong

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fire it a bunch with the 18.5 and break it in better

    Votes: 6 60.0%
  • Try this first before ... (Idea in thread!)

    Votes: 3 30.0%

  • Total voters
    10
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col_temp

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Hi All,

I have a Winchester SXP Defender. About 3.5 years old. Have only put maybe 20 or so shells through it.

Bought a 28" barrel for it. Out at the range had the first shot go bang and be a bit difficult to pump and clear the shell. Loaded another and shot just fine but would not allow me to clear no matter what I or the RSO did.
Brought it home dropped the trigger group, managed to finally get the stock and barrel off but the bolt and innards came with the barrel. Had to disassemble and finally got the shell case out after wiggling the bolt (less the firing pin and other stuff!)

Felt and looked almost like the bolt locked into the lugs of the barrel or the extractor/case lips hung on the edges.

So anyone have any ideas? Should I just send it into Winchester/Browning for service? Should I switch back to the 18.5 barrel and see? Should I try firing 50-100 more through and see if breaking it in a bit more smooths everything out?
Shoudl I just sell the thing and look for another? I got the 26" barrel so I could go pheasant hunting this fall. This shotgun is a backup for home defense have another 20 ga I prefer to the SXP now.

Will be interested in feedback and opinions as well. This was one of the first firearms I purchased before I had found this forum and knew more about firearms in general.
 
What ammo were you using? This issue seems to be cropping up quite often with certain brands of ammo-Winchester Universal is the biggest culprit. If it continues with several types of ammo, the chamber may need to be polished.
 
Many times with new guns, (and especially if you are using the really cheap wally world winchester stuff), the steel hull can expand and not contract making extraction difficult. Since it is basically new, I am also going to assume that you cleaned it thoroughly before shooting it to get the preservative gunk out of everywhere.
 
I wouldn't give up on the gun (or the barrel) based on the result of firing one round. I definitely would try more rounds with both barrels to see what happens. I suspect that there might be a problem with the locking area of the new (28") barrel, but would want to fire more with both barrels before deciding what the problem is and what to do about it.

Jim
 
Thanks figured I would try it some more.

As to ammo the initial rounds were of the better HD and 00 buck to make sure it worked.
Last two were one each of Royal Rio 00 and Rio low recoil 00.
It jammed on the Low recoil but was a bit difficult to get the reg 00 out.

Yes I cleaned it well. Hadn't disassembled all the way before but cleaned the exposed bolt, face, barrel, etc... well. I gave it a good clean since I had all 20 pieces out.
Will run the cleaning brush down a few time to make really sure and go shoot it some more and see.

May just take it into the back yard as then if it jams easy to have the tool needed to take it apart and clear again!
Jim K, kind of what I had in mind. Will give it a shot.
 
Does it do this with both barrels? It could be a problem with just the longer barrel.
 
First suspect as mentioned above would be steel head cases. Second is rough chamber. Third is poor fit of bolt and barrel.
 
I have the exact same gun with both the 18" & 28" barrels.

I have shot all sorts of 2 3/4" and 3" ammo (good stuff and cheap stuff, mostly cheap stuff because, well, it is cheaper) from it and never experienced the slightest hiccup.

Mine as always been thoroughly cleaned, before the first outing and after every one of them.

Would it be at all possible that you shot it a little when you got it, then let it in the safe for a few years without having cleaned it and then recently went back shooting it without prior cleaning? If so, I would believe a good cleaning was all what was needed and everything should be fine now. Just keep it clean and it should run flawlessly.

They are not very complex guns, there is only so much which can go wrong with them.
 
About 3.5 years old. Have only put maybe 20

Might be some dried gunk somewhere, but I would buy a box of NICE target ammo that uses brass heads like Win AA or Rem STS and see if you still get that issue. If yes, most likely a rough chamber area. That can be easily remedied with a wooden dowel wrapped with 0000 steel wool and a little oil chucked in a cordless drill and you making several passes to smooth things up.
 
Will try it with some better ammo as you suggest. And test with both barrels to make sure of the culprit.
Thanks for the thoughts. Will see what happens this weekend!
 
What does the chamber look like?

If there are obvious machine mark rings in it, you will continue to have problems even it you try to polish it with steel wool on a rod.

The steel wool will just follow the rings, and make shiny rings.

Rings are bad, MmmKyyyyy?

The inside of the chamber should look like polished steel or chrome, with no tool marks visable at all.

If you have visable rings, send the barrel back and tell them to hone the chamber.

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...tgun-barrel-polishing-flex-hone--prod647.aspx

rc
 
What does the chamber look like?

If there are obvious machine mark rings in it, you will continue to have problems even it you try to polish it with steel wool on a rod.

Don't remember seeing any but I'll take another look to make sure.
Do like those honing rods. I think the barrel came from Brownell's in the first place so if necessary will take your advice and return it. More testing to follow.
 
Update,
So I went out to the range over the weekend. 18 barrel was flawless as usually, fired everything no problems.
Switched to the 26.fired some estate buck, Winchester aa, federal #4 buck. Worked just fine.
Switched over to the Rio low recoil buck. Fire, JAM. Had to take everything completely apart and finally got the case out. Then proceeded to feed and fire a couple of more of the federal, Winchester, and estate.

So looks like it's an issue with Rio. So solution. Just won't use the Rio for the longer barrel. Problem solved! :)

BTW I suspect might have something to do with the rim on the Rio. Will get my micrometer out and check before and after compared to the others. If there is anything significant I'll report back.
 
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