The POTUS who was packin'

Eleanor Roosevelt reportedly also carried a pistol in her purse.

SSN Vet said:

The story I linked says that Reagan kept it in a brief case.

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Here's a video review: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=782376

DeSantis ....

Top holster firm DeSantis of New York claims they designed & created a special CCW holster for a POTUS but the wouldn't say exactly who the US President was.

Jim Brady was hardly in any condition to react to much of anything. Seems like Sarah did the reacting.

But that's impossible, DC had no carry permits.

I guess the commander of the armed forces can carry where he pleases.

Speedo66 said:

But that's impossible, DC had no carry permits.

I guess the commander of the armed forces can carry where he pleases.

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"When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal." - Richard M. Nixon

once, Andrew Jackson nearly beat a man to death with his *cane* after that man's assassination attempt failed from misfiring pistols.

Earlier Presidents were made of sterner stuff than currently, and had a good American upbringing. Nuff said.......

Theodore Roosevelt .....

The Bull Moose was once shot through his eyeglasses case & hit in the chest by a .44spl bullet.
He had a doctor look at the gunshot, then got back up & started speaking.

That's a real man.

...and as I recall for an hour-or-so long speech, too (bleeding all the while)

Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt were hardly paragons of prudent constitutional adherence and federal restraint, also... Jackson was something of a piece of work, generally. Russian Tsars were also some crazy-tough SOBs back in the day, as well.

"When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal." - Richard M. Nixon

Yeah, no kidding. Reagan passed a goodly portion of the firearms laws enacted since the '60's unrest, remember, both as governor and as president. Granted he had a good reason, but pretty darn hypocritical to sign the Brady Bill with an illegally possessed firearm in the briefcase nearby.

"Top holster firm DeSantis of New York claims they designed & created a special CCW holster for a POTUS but the wouldn't say exactly who the US President was."
Probably all of them. Did they say what kind of firearm, at least? (could have been a concealed-carry-teleprompter {yes, I remember that far back } )

TCB

Body armor and a CCW seem like a good idea for any president these days. But, honestly, the Secret Service is pretty careful to limit the president's exposure when possible. Nothing is foolproof, obviously, but the president is kept in a bubble like never before these days.

RustyShackelford said:

The Bull Moose was once shot through his eyeglasses case & hit in the chest by a .44spl bullet.
He had a doctor look at the gunshot, then got back up & started speaking.

That's a real man.

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Yes....I saw the metal glass case that took the bullet, which also pierced a folded copy of the speech he had in his pocket at the time. I saw both in a museum which was in his New York City home many years ago.

Body armor, I could see. Concealed weapon? Seems utterly pointless. It's not as if the Secret Service is going to let him engage in a firefight.

So just another politician who believed in guns for himself but not for us peons. That man did more to damage our 2a rights than possibly any other president in history.

ChaoSS said:

So just another politician who believed in guns for himself but not for us peons. That man did more to damage our 2a rights than possibly any other president in history.

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You're kidding -- right?

Which president signed the National Firearms Act of 1934 into law?
Which president signed the Gun Control Act of 1938 into law?
Which president signed the Gun Control Act of 1968 into law?
Which president signed the Assault Weapon Ban of 1994 into law?



LOTS of better candidates than President Reagan. LOTS.

Tommygunn said:

You're kidding -- right?

Which president signed the National Firearms Act of 1934 into law?
Which president signed the Gun Control Act of 1938 into law?
Which president signed the Gun Control Act of 1968 into law?
Which president signed the Assault Weapon Ban of 1994 into law?



LOTS of better candidates than President Reagan. LOTS.

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When you consider that Reagan signed into law the ban on open carry in California, the complete and total ban on new machine guns (which neither the NFA or GCA managed to do) and lobbied hard and supported both the brady bill and the Assault weapons ban of 1994, I'd say that Reagan did more damage to 2a than any other president. At the very best, he was among the top 5 worst, he did more damage to the 2a that Obama has, although that's mostly a matte of Obama being ineffective.

chaoSS said:

.... the complete and total ban on new machine guns ....

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You are are this was a last - minute midnight addition to the Gun Owner's Protection Act that was the result of left-wing political skull-duggery, right? Yea I know Reagan signed it, but he hardly endorsed it.
In 1994 Reagan was suffering from Alzheimer's and was in no condition to "lobby hard." In any case, he was in fact no longer president, and his detiorating mental condition ought to negate any idea he could deeply consider the nature of those laws as well as purchase from good Christians some degree of empathy, and forgiveness.

I stand by my prior argument; there are many better candidates.
We will have to agree to disagree.

Yeah, no kidding. Reagan passed a goodly portion of the firearms laws enacted since the '60's unrest, remember, both as governor and as president. Granted he had a good reason, but pretty darn hypocritical to sign the Brady Bill with an illegally possessed firearm in the briefcase nearby.


GOTTA THROW THE FLAG ON THAT ONE. The Brady bill was signed by "Slick Willie" Klinton. Check your history book.

And don't forget, RONALDUS MAGNUS was the driving force behind getting the FOPA passed! (Firearms owner's protection act.)

And there is no illegal weapon for ANY potus. As CINC of the military, he could drive around Washington or New York in an M1A1 Abrams with all weapons fully loaded if he chose to so so. LEGALLY!

Also, there is no ban on machine guns. None! There is only a ban on registering new ones. That sucks, but you can still own, buy,sell or trade any already registered.

Slightly off-topic, but since Andy Jackson was mentioned......the symbol for the dumbocrats is a JACKASS, not a donkey. A political opponent referred to Jackson as a jackass; Jackson decided to run with that & made it the symbol of his party.

Sam

"The Brady bill was signed by "Slick Willie" Klinton. Check your history book."
Whoa, mea culpa! I coulda sworn the guy signed the law named for his buddy blah-blah-sob-story etc... I guess Sarah Brady wasn't quite as quick on the draw, in those days

"However, in his post-presidency, Reagan cast his support to a pair of critical gun control measures in the 1990s: 1993’s Brady Bill and 1994’s Assault Weapons Ban."
(this is from some random site about 'Reagan + gun control') Ah, maybe his post-term advocacy for gun control measures is what had me cornfused.

"Also, there is no ban on machine guns. None! There is only a ban on registering new ones. That sucks, but you can still own, buy,sell or trade any already registered."
And I'm gonna have to throw the flag on that one, since what we have is at least 3X stupider and in conflict with federal law at this point than an honest to goodness ban which would at least be understandable (if legally indefensible). What we have now is a laughable market distortion with the sole purpose of reducing the number of weapons legally available, all the while saddling those stalwart few owners with regulations so mind bendy and irrational, that many are felons as we speak. Add to that that the ATF actually has know idea how many guns are registered, nor to whom in many cases.

Careful, SHOOT1SAM, generic reference to that word'll get you a reprimand here; ask me how I know

TCB

PS, Reagan and his VP were, not unexpectedly, of the same mind on the issue, so the opening left in the RKBA defense by Reagan was furthered by Bush through executive action, and ultimately exploited by Clinton as the final act one Democrats swept congress.

Winston Churchill was known to carry a gun during most of his political career. After a failed assassination attempt during WWII he switched from a .32 revolver to a US Model 1911 in .45 ACP.

I love the 1911, and Britain's native pistols weren't much to brag about, but it still seems a bit unpatriotic. At the very least he could have carried one of the Canadian-made RAF 1911s in .455...

That feller that occupies 1600 PA Ave. right now doesn't need a hand gun or a tank. He's got this.

You s'pose they worry any about collateral damage to onlookers?

The current president apparently carries as well