Have you seen Smith & Wesson M&P triggers lately?

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Just when you thought they couldn't get any worse...

I've never been a fan of the M&P triggers having owned a compact which had to have the trigger done, but Smith has outdone themselves in lowering the bar with what they're producing now.

The trigger on the pistol I handled was beyond bad. They changed their design and have added a mechanism that slides into the way to keep the gun from being fired if the trigger isn't pulled in a certain way. But it actually gets in the way when you try and pull the trigger!

I can't be the only one aghast at what this company is doing to their pistols. They making stock Hi Point triggers feel like they're coming from a custom shop! :uhoh:
 
Weird? Not heard of that, in fact I thought the M&P triggers were supposed to be getting better...
 
Apex? ....

I thought Smith & Wesson got hip to the growing trend of M&P owners to redo the custom Apex Tactical system to the stock triggers? :confused:

Firearm industry sources reported the firm changed the pistol designs to be smoother & better.
I purchased a no thumb safety M&P Shield manufactured on 11/14/2014.

The trigger is factory stock & I personally have no problems with it.
In truth, I did see a few gunshop M&Ps(summer-2014) in .40S&W & 9x19mm that were awful.

The triggers were gritty and uneven. I'm not a gunsmith or gun expert but even I could see these factory pistols had bad triggers.
 
OP, you may want to try out more than a sample of ONE prior to announcing to the world on the internet that the M&P triggers have gotten worse.

Our original M&Ps were just replaced, and the new pistols have far superior triggers than the first batch ... Fact is, S&W has improved the triggers on the M&P series pistols.
 
I just bought a M&P9c and a M&P9 Shield and both triggers seems fine to me, I was looking at several other handguns in the price range and the M&Ps seemed to have nicer triggers to me.
 
First I've heard of any change in the trigger since they made them better.

You sure your sample didn't have some sort of trigger block added to keep the gun shop commandos at the counter from driving everyone crazy snapping them all day??

rc
 
My 5 year old 9c has a perfectly fine trigger.

My buddy's Shield is also fine.

Both are box stock.

And the coating isn't peeling off the slides, and I can fully load the mags. And none of the other problems reported on the internet are happening to us. They are just perfectly good guns after gazillions of rounds of all types.
 
The Shield has a little different trigger than the rest of the M&P line..IMO they should use it in all of their guns.
 
Aha. The biggest problem with the Sigma was the horrible trigger. The M&P is an evolved Sigma. But I guess Smith & Wesson decided to rest on their laurels and make the M&P more like its daddy.
 
I have found nothing wrong with M&P triggers - new or old - other than a slight amount of grittyness when new that is easily taken care of without any extra parts or a trip to a gun shop. Is it a tuned 1911, no.
 
Not enough information in the OP to give an intelligent response.
 
My M&P is a couple of years old and it's the only M&P I've ever shot or even handled for that matter. Maybe I got lucky and got an exceptional one but it has a very nice trigger.
 
Aha. The biggest problem with the Sigma was the horrible trigger. The M&P is an evolved Sigma. But I guess Smith & Wesson decided to rest on their laurels and make the M&P more like its daddy.
The fact that the M&P shares exactly ZERO physical parts or design elements with the Sigma does not keep you from making this absurd claim. I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that you might be a fan-boy of brand-x pistols.
 
mgmorden wrote,
The M&P is very, very different from the Sigma. Compared to any other polymer striker gun on the market the only thing the M&P has in common with the Sigma is the manufacturer's logo.

gglass wrote,
The fact that the M&P shares exactly ZERO physical parts or design elements with the Sigma does not keep you from making this absurd claim.

Hey, you fella's are being way too harsh towards Thermactor. The SIGMA and M&P have all kinds of similarities. They both have frames made of polymer, they both have a hinged trigger, they both have S&W stamped on them, and they have a barrel, slide, springs, sights, well, you know, just like all semi-auto pistols. See how many similarities they have?

gglass wrote,
I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that you might be a fan-boy of brand-x pistols.
My bet is brand "G".
 
I've never had a problem with my M&Ps triggers. Yes, it feels different than my CZ or 1911s, but seriously, who cares? I get the same sized groups and faster splits than my single stacks, so whooptie freakin doo that the trigger doesn't feel the same. Fast hits on target are what matters, not if your gun makes you a latte and gives you a foot massage while on the range. If you have a problem with your M&P trigger it can probably be fixed by putting a thousand rounds down range through a PA-63. Problem solved, your M&P trigger is awesome now.

And no OP, S&W has not added anything to the trigger.
 
Wasn't the original Sigma so close to the Glock 19 that S&W was sued and had to made changes which resulted in the heavy and long trigger of the Sigma?
 
i thought i was the only one who felt how sad the M&P triggers are, had one for a few months, sold it did not want to spend a ton a money on aftermarket trigger parts, then i heard good things about the Springfield XDM in 9mm with the 4.5" barrel, this was not much better than the M&P, the XDM has such a long pull that it was crazy,dont know how these guns can make the market, if they continue i feel they will go down as fast as the Titanic did, the only difference Titanic had a band, as one user said they are making HI Point look like they came out of a custom shop, funny but sort of true, last week after my wife sort of gave on the XDM, I got her a new PPQ M2 in 9mm, trigger is a BIG improvement that the S&W or the Springfield,

Chet
 
I went into my LGS ready to purchase a S&W M&P core, especially after hearing that the triggers were far improved. Imagine my disappointment with the still crappy trigger. I thought about getting trigger work as I really liked the rest of the gun, but ultimately decided against it in favor of an HK VP9.

The VP may not be optics ready, but the trigger is worlds better and renders the gun far more shootable IMHO. J
 
Sometimes I get the feeling that there are quite a few folks lurking about on the internet who (1) haven't shot enough guns in their lifetimes to know what actually constitutes a "good" trigger and (2) have no experience with revolvers.
 
Old Dog said:
Sometimes I get the feeling that there are quite a few folks lurking about on the internet who (1) haven't shot enough guns in their lifetimes to know what actually constitutes a "good" trigger and (2) have no experience with revolvers.

You know, I've yet to see the "... But The Trigger Feels Good" award given out at any matches...
 
Sometimes I get the feeling that there are quite a few folks lurking about on the internet who (1) haven't shot enough guns in their lifetimes to know what actually constitutes a "good" trigger and (2) have no experience with revolvers.

I also get the feeling that the Ford vs Chevy debate ain't just for trucks. I prefer Fords, but drive a Chevy - just to be a contrarian and keep things interesting. The Chevy gets the job done and does it well, just like an M&P.
 
The fact that the M&P shares exactly ZERO physical parts or design elements with the Sigma does not keep you from making this absurd claim. I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that you might be a fan-boy of brand-x pistols.
That would be a pretty good bet....they tend to believe "only glock makes guns" type stuff.

My 9c had your typical junk striker trigger that all crappy old striker guns have. It served it purpose, I'd stick my finger in between the plastic wrap around thing and trigger then squeeze the trigger and presto....excellent groups without the whining.

My shields trigger was improved with about 10 minutes on the worksharp. I can actually shoot it better than I did my 9c.

I have two buddies with the 5" pros, both have what I consider good triggers for those type guns. Either one you can knock plates down with from 15-200 yards with practice. (of course the 200 yd shots aren't 100%)

Make my guns with hammers please and thank you.
 
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