9mm extreme bullets?

Mine measure .356. They recommend using mid range jacketed data, Accurate powder shows data with plated bullets, I use AA#5 5.8gr with extreme 124hp.

I tried that combination when I was worried about supplies of HP38.

9mm P 5" Colt 1991A1
147 gr Xtreme + 3.4 gr Bullseye = 907 fps
147 gr Xtreme + 3.6 gr Bullseye = 940 fps

Jacketed are Jacketted and lead is lead. Plated are plated and fall somewhere in between.
If anybody asks me I always say use data as specific to your load as possible. Use more than one manual and if you can't find data contact the powder manufacturer.

I run all serious loads over a chronograph. The published data is a starting point and safety limit.
The IDPA pistol ammo has to make power factor with a safety margin, but not a big margin.
The F-class rifle ammo needs high and uniform velocity.
The BPCR ammo needs mostly uniform velocity, like single digit SD.

I run both Extreme and Powerbond 115 grain plated bullets at mid-jacketed velocities and have great results.

lonewolf5347 said:

I am looking to reload 9MM ...show no load data with the heavy bullets....info would be appreciate.

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Have you checked Alliant's web site?
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/RecipeList.aspx?gtypeid=1

I didn't see any recommendations for 147gr w/Bullseye

Double check this 3.4 BE, just off tip of my head,

i've loaded about 3-4 thousand rounds of xtreme 124 gr rn 9mm with bullseye and power pistol. in my m92fs, the low charges with bullseye will not cycle the slide. power pistol is what i prefer. i load just like suggested, between cast and jacketed data.

I have loaded 124gr Xtreme 9mm bullets without any problems. The diameter on 124gr CPHP and 124gr CPRN was .355". I have not seen a .356" diameter 9mm Xtreme bullet yet.

If you are looking for .356" diameter 9mm plated bullets, then look at RMR and Berry's. The Berry's hollow base and RMR match plated bullets are .356" diameter and both are quality plated bullets.

I load them for high end cast data.

I load Xtreme's 124gr RNs with jacketed data. When I work up loads I will work up to max looking for best accuracy. The real limiting factor with plated bullets is the velocity ceiling of 1200fps (1500fps if you use their heavy plate bullets,) not necessarily stopping at mid-range jacketed data or using lead data. Most of my loads are mid to high range because that's where the accuracy is best.

Speaking of lead vs. jacketed data; I also load 200gr RNs in 45 Auto. If you check out Hodgdon's data with a 200gr LSWC and a 200gr JHP you'll find that with some powders the lead data is slightly higher, with others the jacketed data is slightly higher, and with others they are the same. The same thing happens in the 45 Colt tables with 250gr bullets too (I love their 250gr FP in 45 Colt cases.) Depending on which powder you use if you use lead data with your plated bullets thinking that your loads won't be too hot you will actually be loading hotter than if you had used jacketed data. Of course, in 45 Auto you will never approach the 1200fps ceiling with any published data.

In the 45 Colt my pet load with the 250 gr FP is a half grain over Hodgdon's max of Universal with the 250gr XTP for just over 1000fps. A little warm for an SAA but my Blackhawk and Redhawk can take it and beg for more, and it sure is accurate. Before a moderator slaps a boldfaced caveat on my post please note that my pet load is still .2gr lower than Speer's max with Universal and a 250gr LSWC. (Another case of lead data being hotter than jacketed.)

BE will cycle 147 gr bullet, with right load,, fast powder lije titegroup. Yes i wish i ha 15lbs V320 tho most powder hard to find, get whats available, make it work

Now that BE-86 is becoming available and people are starting to use it, we need to all be careful when we use the abbreviation BE for Bullseye. Some may confuse it with BE-86.

Just my opinion but I think Alliants max charge 5.1 with 147 jacketed and BE86 is way to stout. I dropped 10% for a start charge 10% more for lead vs jacketed and another 10% for good measure and started at about 3.5. Very glad I did. I have used BE86 with 124s and 4.7 was giving me about 1080ish with those so I figured a start of 4.5 with a 147 was to much.
IMO 3.5 BE86 is a good start charge for BE86 with 147s.


Older Win data shows 3.5 max of 231 with a lead 147 so I would work up to 3.9 with the 147 but maybe I am just chicken. I would start lower.