The Canik TP9 V2 is now available. Any takers?

A friend at my LGS has one and let me take it on a test drive, nice shooter, accurate, and nicely made, good quality firearm.

I can't figure out what's different between the TP9SA and V2. Anyone want to clue me in?

I was hoping the V2 would lose the decocker but I can see it's still there.

edit: The barrel/slide seems a smidge shorter but not sure if that's an improvement. It wouldn't really make it any easier to carry since the grip is the same size.

malakili said:

I can't figure out what's different between the TP9SA and V2. Anyone want to clue me in?

I was hoping the V2 would lose the decocker but I can see it's still there.

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The TP9 V2 is the V2 of the original TP9, not the TP9SA. It's DA/SA (so the decocker actually serves a purpose).

There is also a version of the TP9SA on their website with the decocker removed but I don't think its been imported.

The SAR B6P goes on sale occasionally for $240 so that is the pistol I'm looking at for a "truck gun / car gun"

I already have a Walther P99AS, so I have no need of its less-refined clone.

Sold my Glock 19 and bought 2 of the SAR B6Ps...couldn't be happier...

I also have the SAR B69 and it is one of the best buys . It is beautifully machined inside and out and functions flawlessly each time I shoot it.

As an avid Walther fan with lots of Walther pistols, I will be picking one up in the Desert Tan finish TP9 V2.

I've read, though not confirmed, that Walther licensed out their patented trigger geometry. It does seem right when considering the TP9SA trigger being better than most other polymer guns...like the PPQ.

I would not go that far. It is not better than a PPQ trigger. Once you hit the decocker, it is essentially unloaded, you need to rack the slide again for it to fire. On the SA version, haven't seen the other. But that in itself is a no no for anyone who carries a gun for self defense. You fire a thousand rounds out of both and then tell me it's better than a PPQ, and I might give you some credibility. But right now it's an untested gun, that has shown up on prepper websites and wormed it's way into the limelight by offering a cheap hi capacity gun at an affordable price. It is no Walther. That distinction comes with time and field testing.http://bearingarms.com/canik-tp9sa-bad-choice-price/

Frankly, that guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

The Walther P99QA was replaced by the PPQ in the US. The P99QA also had a decocker that did not revert to double action (that is the P99AS).

It is impossible to hit the decocker accidentally on the P99QA/P99 and the TP9/TP9SA.

Walther still manufactures and sells the P99 here in the U.S. It was not replaced by the PPQ.

Secondly, I had a "gen 1" TP9, which I liked, but the slide locked up after the first 6 rounds. It took Canik/Century Arms almost 8 weeks to repair the firearm and return it. Took several emails and phone calls to "expedite" the lengthy repair and return.

Meanwhile my Tristar P100 is perfect after 600 rounds.

Moral to the story: reports on the guns are mostly good but IME customer service is poor.

Also if you have had any dealings with Century arms you know that they are very hit and miss on their QC. This and the untested newness of this particular firearm is just not a good combination to have when choosing a gun that protects your life.
Again I see the value that has intrigued many people to overlook the long term value of this gun, but I advise to wait a while and see how it performs a year from now. It isn't going to suddenly skyrocket in price, because it would loose it's appeal. This reminds me of Japan in the 70-80's when they would copy designs from everyone else and make it for less money. I just have an intrinsic distaste for company's who outright take what someone else worked for and make it for a little less money and call it their own design, call me old world, but the original is usually better than the copy over the long haul.
But if it suits you fancy then go for it, Me, I would wait.

The P99QA DID get replaced by the PPQ. The PPQ is just the 2008 polish licensed P99RAD version of the P99. The P99AS is still being imported in the US.

Any questions? On Walthers?

I have read that Walther licensed their trigger mechanism to Canik. This patent is going out of copyright this/next year. Should be interesting to see what ends up coping the Walther single action trigger.

I've two TP-9 SAs and they do their thing without issue. They're not of Walther quality but the price point for the value is what attracted me (that, and the rumors about the great trigger).

I've been waiting for the TP-9 v2 since word was out that they were coming. I'll be getting one soon (in Desert Tan, if possible).

That Bearing Arms video is bad. It's actually a review by TheYankeeMarshall and he conducted the "review" without even touching the gun, much less firing it and working the decocker. I've never inadvertently decocked my SAs...even purposely decocking is sometimes difficult.

But the controversy about the TP-9 SA's decocker doesn't apply to the TP-9 v2 at all...the v2 is a DA/SA gun...it's striker won't be deactivated by the decocker. Yes, this was already stated up above, but someone mentioned this as a concern after it was stated.

Well I lied

I just purchased a TP9SA in Desert Tan that should be arriving soon. I will compare it to my PPQ when here.

I was a bit disappointed to learn the TP9V2 is a 4" barrel. With the long grip, I wonder if it feels off kilter?

The reason that the DE cocker on a SA action gun is a bad idea,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2TJh--Oztk

The reason that the DE cocker on a SA action gun is a bad idea,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2TJh--Oztk

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I'm new here (not new to guns or internet forums...just new to this site). I hope I'm not going to come across as nasty or condescending...that's not the intent. I'd like to share my thoughts on TheYankeeMarshall and gun philosophies that can adversely hurt the perception of certain guns.

Claiming a gun is bad without actively reviewing the gun is bad, IMO. TYM didn't actually handle a TP9 SA before publishing that review. How many reviewers do you see doing that? MAC had a similar view but at least they had a gun on-hand and reviewed it BEFORE sharing their thoughts with the world...I respect them for that. As well, TYM's comments come across as tact-less (especially where his reviewer peers are concerned) and more of a rant than anything -- it's like that with almost all of his videos. His reviews lack objectivity in most cases. He rants a lot about things that oppose his views. He rarely shares good information. He normally just rants like he missed his dose of Adderal...without substantiating his claims with facts and/or data. All of that makes him appear less than credible.

This gun and it's decocker...most people ignore it or don't buy it if they don't like it. There are many guns in existence that go against the philosophies that people may have. Many people hate on 1911s because they think carrying in Condition 1 is dangerous...that's not the case, but people continue to share bad information about the gun. Some people hate on Glocks because they don't offer manual safeties. Does that make it less of a gun? Depends on who you ask. Trigger discipline is key, right? Why can trigger discipline be good for Glock but decocker discipline not be good enough for the TP9 SA? A bad guy might attack someone holding a 1911...he puts his hands on the gun and manages to safety the gun...is that bad, or is the fact that the defender lacked the situational awareness to prevent a bad guy from physically touching the gun? Does that mean all safeties are bad? Depends on who you ask and their philosophies on guns. Here's some risk mitigation for the TP9 SA: get a good holster that covers the decocker; adjust your situational awareness so that there is less chance of a bad guy getting ahold of your weapon and actuating the decocker. As with anything, being comfortable and familiar with the gun will help, whatever that gun may be, and training is key.

Basically, I don't need a guy like TYM dictating to me what I shouldn't buy. Anti-2A guys already try to do that. Do I like TYM? No, but that's besideds the point. Everyone has an opinion, but it doesn't mean the opinion is always right to everyone. At this point, I've probably shot and handled the gun more than he has. The gun is fine for my needs and if it weren't so large, I'd also carry it without issue.