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Goodness, talk about resurrecting threads!

True, there's no reason you can't have a AR upper in any of the AK calibers. *shrug* I'm not really looking for an AR for this build.

I'm debating whether to get the pushbutton style with an AR adapter or the AR stock ACE hinge. I'm planning on putting a Magpul AR stock on it either way, not sure if the adapter increases the length that much or not though.

What hinge did you use for the stock?

Cost. I haven't seen one that is built on a short AK (under 21" OAL) for a price that's close to that of the donor AK pistol plus the fee to SBR it. If you are aware of any that are very close to the cost of the pistol +$200, please let me know :D The loss in velocity for 7.62 in a short...

Yeah, but when they're not to be found for under $1,000... Time to go another route!

What about a side folder like this? I'd like to put something I could get a decent cheek weld on / possibly telescopes a bit. Underfolders look a bit painful to use.

Yeah, it sounds like the pap is the best way to go, think I'll be getting one of those!

Thanks for the tip! The SLR-107UR looks nice, but I'm not too familiar with what cutting the barrel down would involve, or what initial price I would expect to pay.

I'm looking for a 7.62 AK pistol to eventually turn into a SBR with a reflex sight. Maybe even suppressed with a holo sight when my budget allows. The price point is something I haven't figured out yet. As short as possible while still functioning well is the main thing that's driving my...

Possibly. But that's after adding quite a bit to it. With something like the Robinson XCR-L Micro, you have a gun that's by all accounts, very picky with ammo and starts at $1,500, not counting furniture, RDS or anything else. With an AR based SBR, you can't get anything as short as a Draco, or...

That Robinson XCR-L Micro is a sexy beast! Looks like it runs around $1,500ish though, plus tax stamp. Bit more than I want to spend right now. The Sub 2000 is pretty nice as well, pity that it only comes in pistol caliber rounds :( At this point, I think I'll just wait around for someone...

A suppressed SBR really isn't on my list, as it's the overall length I'm focused on. I'm interested in 7.62x39 due to the size and power of the round in a short barreled weapon. I suppose I could look for a 7.62x39 AR, but between the buffer tube making a folding stock a bit of a nightmare...

Micro Galil is only in 5.56 though right?

I noticed that one heh. Looking at the past auctions, there were only two that sold for less than $850. I just want as short an AK as possible (while still functioning reliably). If I have to find a parts kit and gunsmith it up, I suppose that's an option too if it'll be cheaper. I really...

My thread has been hijacked! No, but seriously, the mini Draco sounds like the best option by far. Now the only challenge is to find one at a reasonable price. Hopefully I don't have to wait for forever.

I'm in no particular rush on this project, what is a good price for a draco / mini draco these days (recent crazy price inflation not considered)?

I've been wanting to build an AK-based SBR, maybe starting out with an AK pistol like a Mini Draco and getting a Form 1 and a folding stock and converting it from a pistol to a SBR. However, I'm not overly familiar with what's been done / what's out there as far as AK-based SBR's go. Is it...

Stopped by the local big box gun store today, took a look at the Ruger American and the Savage Axis, and they were almost identical, except the trigger on the Savage Axis sucked. Bud's has the Ruger American for $340...

Wow, that is really informative. I've read some of Andrew Tuohy's stuff before, but that takes the cake. Nice to see original first hand research instead of the same notions based on third or fourth hand bits being rehashed.