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Thats good advise, the last time I checked NC didn't have any case law concerning the definition of concealed weapon. A few years back I know of at least one LEO agency that said it was ok to transport a firearm in a locked glove box, while one county over another agency would arrest for it. Go...

Gee I can't believe you all don't like Pizza Hut. :what: That’s good advice. I don't think I have ever carried concealed into bar while off duty and definitely never carried while consuming alcohol. Hey how do you get the "Originally Posted by whoever" into the quote?

What??? It's a figure of speach, a restaurant that serves alcohol. Off topic but have you ever tried the Meat lovers deep-pan.WOW! its good.

Just for the record, I don’t 100 percent agree with the logic behind it. IMO, there is a huge difference between a nightclub/bar and Pizza Hut. One I can expect a greater chance of trouble and the other I can feed my family. None taken. It absolutely drives me nuts to here a LEO interpret the...

Generally speaking under common law a motel room would be considered a temporary dwelling. However, businesses do have the right to prohibit firearms. If I have time I’ll see if I can find some case law (if there is any). I can’t see anyone interpreting the law this way but then again I have...

Thats my understanding of it.

Sorry I'm still playing catch up here. I Just read House Bill 74 and it is the one to go with. http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2011&BillID=H74

For those of you posting in the Castle Doctrine Coming To NC thread, I found some really good case law. http://caselaw.findlaw.com/nc-supreme-court/1319813.html http://www.aoc.state.nc.us/www/public/sc/opinions/2002/304-01-1.htm#Footnote1

So the filed bill is the one they're voting on? http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2011&BillID=S34 Its still contains the presumption for dwelling but does not contain the presumption and "no duty to retreat" from outside the dwelling under GS-14-51.2

Hey it looks like they dropped this part from the bill that was filed http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2011&BillID=S34

Then how do you explain GS-15A-404? If pointing a gun at a person is assault with a deadly weapon then how do you explain GS 14-34. Maybe there’s a misunderstanding, the primary purpose of CCW is for self-defense (against the imminent threat of serious body injury or death). It’s not meant for...

Sorry about the misunderstanding, what I am trying to say. Extra short version: (In the context of your home) You are authorized to detain under GS15a. If you are in fear of serious bodily injury or death to a third party or yourself you are authorized to use deadly force, once that...

If I have my gun out it’s because I’m in fear of serious bodily injury or death to a third party or myself, if he walks out the door I am no longer in fear, the threat is gone. Based on my training, experience and physical condition and on the presumption I am capable of detaining him by...

http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/Statutes/Statutes.asp Yes it could be considered going to the terror of the public (if you were in the public) and several other charges, this is out of scope of the original thread and kind of taking things out of context. Better topic for a new thread if I can...

False! They need to read the law. GS 15A?404. Detention of offenders by private persons. (a) No Arrest; Detention Permitted. – No private person may arrest another person except as provided in G.S. 15A?405. A private person may detain another person as provided in this section. (b)...

No I have not taken the NC CCH, I’m kind of exempt. Not to boaster, I have well over twenty years of LEO experience, a ton of in-service training along with a BA in Criminal Justice. Nor would I want to use lethal force to protect against a larceny. The law does allow me to use the least...

OK, I had a chance to review the proposed bill and I definatley like it. Immunity from Criminal and Civil action, (always a good thing) No duty to retreat from where a person has a right to be subsection (d), (I take this to mean a public place?) The definition of dwelling to include...

Not to be argumentative, but under the law: I don't have to retreat from my home. I am justified in using any degree of force that the occupant reasonably believes is necessary, including deadly force, against an intruder to prevent a forcible entry into the home or residence or to...

I believe this bill was a counter-measure for the Contributory Negligence bill that failed in the Senate. Please correct me if Im wrong, to my understanding we currenty have the "Castle Doctrine” under NC GENERAL STATUTE 14-51.1. Use of deadly physical force against an intruder. NC also...