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I live in MO, it is veto proof, well over 3/4 in the house and 5 votes over in the senate so as long and not more then 5 people in the senate change their mind it will get passed in September and become a law in Jan 2017 Tony

Thanks Dave, I really do appreciate everyone's time and help. I decided to try a small run again with the RMR bullet. I re-did the Seating die and the crimping die. I did this just like the other times same way, well I thought??? All 20 seated fine this time, not sure what changed or...

The point being you said I was crimping to much and I just stated that in the end the crimp was to much but I hit every point in between no crimp and to much crimp. If there is a different way to find out how much crimp one needs please fill me in as I seem to not be getting what you are...

I have guys I have seated to 1.20 still the same thing I sneak up on the crimp. I start with it backed out and turn it in a very little at a time at no point during this does it seat.

I will seat it a little at a time on the press as I can not push the bullet in

You must have a preconceived idea what the problem is and not paying any heed to what others have suggested in this thread. ^^Not at all I have tried everything that has been suggested except this "Take an unsized case and push a bullet in enough to get it started. Push that in your...

No problems, I have tried from 1.200 all the way to 1.68 same failure rate on ""the Bullets"" as far as seating goes. I was using a seat/crimp die and actually had made 200rounds and put them down range no malfunctions. Only when I started using ""the bullets"" did I start having these...

lol I understand that :D So Tell me what I am doing wrong :confused: I just ran 25 through with the hornady all seated right, I then grabbed a few of ""the bullets"" and ran them, they would not seat. I did reset the crimp die, I started where it wouldn't crimp at all and very very...

Bigbore, I tried some of the other bullets again and the same thing, could the swaged part of the die be off and the Hornady bullet are in tolerance and don't need swaged? Tony

well I changed nothing but the bullets and it is working. Also all every bullet I made that did not seat everyone of the brass seated fine after sizing, plunked perfect. All brass was within specs as I stated below in an earlier post.

ok it turns out to be the bullets :banghead: I was out and about so stopped and picked up some Hornady 230 FMJ RN which turned out to be much tighter tolerance's than the RMR ones. I just ran a 100 through and 8 did not seat right, I re-crimped just a tad tighter they seated. :) Tony

Tcruse, The gun is fairly new only about 4 rounds through it from 5 range visits and cleaned after each one. I have run test groups from 1.20 - 1.70. I just and another test of 10 random head stamps; all cases measured, low .885 High .889 all cases seated properly after sizing all die...

Here is the culprit [/URL][/IMG] Here it is colored in [/URL][/IMG] and here it is after test fit [/URL][/IMG] looks to me like it is mostly on the bullet and a little on the case??? Tony

I pulled the bullet on the one that would not seat, re-sized it and it seated fine. I ran it again starting with no crimp eventually get down to where I crimped the others and it seated. I then pulled the bullet again as I wanted to see if there were any crimp marks on the bullet. There was...

I ran another ten, this time with 5 different head stamps 2 of each. Had one that would not seat not matter how much I crimped. I set the crimp up with the adjustment backed all the way out put a sized bullet in the press and went to the highest point then lowered the crimp adjustment to...

Couple of reasons, one is that I thought that was taking the bell off it was .468 after sizing then .474 after expanding then back to 468. Second, that is right around were they started seating with correct headspace. .468 or .469 seem I get this measurement across the crimp but I will...

Ok I ran another test round of 10. All federal brass all [/URL][/IMG] All case mouths were after de-prime and size .468 all dropped right in to the barrel and seated perfect. All cases were expanded to .474 this is the point were I could get the bullet started without to much trouble...

so here are two rounds out of ten processed at the same time, same die settings both dropped into the barrel after de-prime and size. After the expand, seat and crimp one will one won't seat right. [/URL][/IMG] [/URL][/IMG]

Ok I do have the Hornady LNL but I am using it at this point as a single stage and making one at a time. I was using just the RMR Bullets until I ran into this issue so I tried other bullets that I had. Yes I am using the barrel as my case gauge and after making 10 rounds on the same die...

I thought the problem was fixed but out of 10 bullets I made 3 of them would not fit in the barrel. I am using Reminton, Hornady and . RMR Hardcore Match all are 230 FMJ or TMJ RN.