I always see these threads about a 30 carbine being an underpowered round, not so much...30 carbine muzzle velocity about 1900 fps (110 grain) at 100 yards still holding about 1500 fps..compared to .357 magnum in a rifle 1800 fps (158 grain)at 100 yards drops to approx 1400 fps, of course...
just bought one recently,takedown version, was a project gun,but was functional,missing a few small items, price was 200.00, turned it into a trench gun clone
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