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No, I didn't. I proved your point was wrong! I was 18, the same age as the OP. The point, which you obviously missed, was that you can't make a blanket judgment that any 18 year old is to immature to carry a firearm. I suggest the fault is not with the young people you have contact with but that...

I debated with myself for quite a while before deciding to answer. First the OP talking to his mother and step-father about his carry piece was not an act of immaturity. Family are the ones you are supposed to talk to. They should know you carry and that it is not something to discuss except...

The ACLU does support the 2nd Amendment - as they understand it. They focus on the words "Militia" and "State." The SCOTUS focused on the words "right of the people" and found the right was individual rather than collective. The ACLU disagrees Good people can disagree with SCOTUS rulings and...

Stats for deadly force incidents in churches/ministries from http://www.carlchinn.com/Church_Security_Concepts.html Deadly Force Incidents (DFI's) at Faith-Based Organizations in the United States (includes suspicious deaths, suicides and deadly force protection) DATA CURRENT for time...

The last time my wife and I went to the range together, I brought 6 handguns in our handgun bag. I started laying out the first two we intended to shoot (a Walther PPK .380 and a Springer 1911A1 Milspec .45) when the guy from the next lane leans over and says, "Can the little lady handle that...

pioneer461 said You got that right! They are not just ignorant, they are largely untrained in anything pertaining to CCWLs. I make it a practice to notify with any LEO contact. I was amazed at how often the LEO asked to see my CCWL. Not because they doubted I had one, but because they had never...

Roccobro, don't bother. TT has shown himself to be completely devoid any intellectual honesty.

Let's see what my choices are: I can either accept as gospel TTs imaginary, trumped up, silly speculation or I have to accept his lie about anybody on this forum saying California is a pro-gun state? Decisions, decisions. Wait! I've got it! NONE OF THE ABOVE! BOTH ARE UNTRUE!

TT said I am still waiting for the name of one person who has been proned out by California Law Enforcement for legally carrying a concealed weapon. And, once again, you have failed to understand the difference between California as a political entity and California as a community of...

Buck Snort said Been there several times. Have had many LEO contacts. Never had a problem. Mostly they just shrug their shoulders and say "no problem." Once I was told "keep it holstered." That was the the most negative thing that ever happened to me in Sodom By The Bay. But I am usually on...

Buck Snort But even those counties have a few CCWLs issued. Not nearly enough, in my opinion, but they still issue. No. My CCW is issued due to my "connection" to another Federal department/agency. My DOJ "connection" is Cal DOJ, and that is tenuous, at best, and would not qualify as "good...

TT said Yes, that is what I said. Quite clearly. That is not an "admission" as if I were confessing to a crime, that is a fact I stated quite clearly. Again, I call your reading comprehension abilities into question. I have never defended the violation of any citizen's rights. I called FUD on...

TT said I am going to have to question your first statement regarding your having "no problem with reading comprehension." I have never said, implied, nor believed that "California is peaches and cream for gunnies." I simply pointed out that NOBODY, to my knowledge, who holds a valid CCWL in...

OOOOpppsss. Sorry. Just the natural paranoia of advanced age. :)

There seems to be a serious misunderstanding here. The assertion was made that, if you were a California CCW holder, you could expect to be proned out by LE simply for carrying legally. My response was that such an assertion was nonsense. I am still waiting for a first hand account of a...

TT said Wow! That is certainly an example of critical reasoning and reading comprehension! We somehow interpreted "I have been a California CCW license holder for many years and have never been proned out" to mean "Some people just really really need to pretend that California isn’t an...

Okay, I can go along with that. California has some really stupid, and ineffective, gun laws. And 12050 is a mess, leaving too much discretion in the hands of the local CLEO thus creating a disparity of issuance from county to county. But California is not as bad as many of the bashers like to...

Kingofthehill said No longer a LEO. DOJ? Well, sort of. Courts/Judge: Nope. But I have NEVER seen a California CCW holder proned out. Nor have I ever heard of such happening except the "my friend's cousin's brother-in-law's former girl friend's new boy friend told the guy who works at the car...

renegade1alpha said Nonsense! I have been a California CCW license holder for many years and have never been proned out. I have never had a peace officer ask about my sidearm at all. Mostly they just shrug their shoulders and ignore it. I went aboard MCRD Friday and informed the Marine MP at the...

I'm with Deanimator. 45 years ago it would have been no trouble at all for the young 11 Bang Bang I was back then to outdistance him, however, in my mid-60s I am not quite as fast as I used to be. A simple take-down restraint would work best for me. :) However, if that proved to be...