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    Why confiscation won't work

    Door to door won't be necessary. Once they have names on a list there will taxes, fees, penalties and insurance requirements imposed on those individuals. You will get a letter in the mail requiring you to turn in what they think have, meet some standard of proof that you no longer have it, or...
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    It is easily understandable how/why a 7.62/.308 soft point would immediately put someone down. I would not expect the same from a FMJ round like the military uses, yet it seems to be the frequently repeated that in combat it puts the target down and they stay down. I would expect that even...
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    To sumamrize what I've learned from this thread. It is POSSIBLE that a 7.62 NATO FMJ round (M80 ball for example) can pass through the chest and if it misses the heart, spine and any major vessels, the result is a more or less caliber sized wound and the shootee can still be functional. They...
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    This will be my final question. Is the muscle damage from the temporary cavity stretch mainly bruising or is there a considerable amount of tearing also? In general, is the injured area of muscle surrounding the direct bullet path a matter of millimeters or is it several inches?
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    That helps. Thank you.
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    Is the lung tissue easily damaged by temporary cavity stretch? I have read in other places the lung tissue was fairly resistant to temporary cavity. Is this just a result of less resistance by lung tissue so the temporary cavity dimensions are small?
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    I guess what I'm kind of hung up on is that the temporary cavity is touted as the significant wounding mechanism with a rifle (the reason rifle bullet wounds are so distinctive from handgun wounds and are more destructive with a smaller bullet than a handgun). But then there is all the...
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    Thank you Sam. Any thoughts on why or if a 7.62 NATO/.308 fmj wound (without yawing) would incapacitate more effectively than an identical shot with a 9mm pistol? Here's my line of thought - the common knowledge is that the rifle will always be better than a pistol (even if the pistol bullet...
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    Given a straight through wound, no yawing or fragmentation or bones involved, would the difference between a .30 fmj and a .223 fmj be significant? Is the caliber difference enough that the .30 caliber wound would be expected to bleed that much more or more quickly ? Is the caliber...
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    Thank you all for your comments. A .30 caliber fmj bullet just seems like a small bullet to have reputation in our military history. One could easily get the notion from a lot of what's out there that no enemy ever survived a torso hit from one of these rounds.
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    I guess what I am asking is if this .30 caliber full metal jacket bullet will blow a 3 or 4 inch hole through the torso of an unfortunate recipient or scramble all their insides? Or will it punch a caliber sized hole (which doesn't seem like much considering the reputation of this round)?
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    7.62 NATO/.308 "margin of error"

    With a 7.62 NATO FMJ round, is there a "margin of error" where if the bullet passes within an inch or two of a vital structure it will still severely damage it?
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    Reality vs Fantasy: the case for .22 Carry

    If you are using a .45 apparently anywhere is good because you have this "margin of error".
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    Reality vs Fantasy: the case for .22 Carry

    So how much margin of error or "forgiveness" do you get from a .45? If you miss a vital structure by an inch does a .45 still stop them in their tracks, whereas the lesser caliber missing by an inch wouldnt? Compared to a 9mm or a .380 or even a .22 what is the margin of error or forgiveness...
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    Rifle temporary cavity question(s)

    When Fackler evaluated the 5.45 round it showed that when the bullet was yawed as it passed through muscle, lung and bowel the only damage was the size of the bullet, there was no damage from the temporary cavity in these tissues. The temporary cavity would not damage these tissues without...
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    Terminal effect differences?

    Are there any ballpark estimates of how many inches or cm of stretch an elastic tissue may tolerate before permanent damage occurs? Would an 8" temp cavity in muscle or lung irreversibly damage the entire stretched region or would the resulting permanent damage be just a few inches in diameter?
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    Terminal effect differences?

    I would think that even the bruising from the stretch cavity may impair function to some degree immediately. I'm sure there is a large variance in the severity of the bruising, but if it is such that a large area of lung or muscle is pulped, wouldn't that help with the shots effect on the...
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    Terminal effect differences?

    Permanent (crush) cavity: A 7.62 caliber bullet is small and the 5.56 even smaller. Assuming they do not have a chance to yaw, that diameter difference by itself does not seem to me like it would be enough to produce a markedly different result. Temporary (stretch) cavity: There will be...
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    Terminal effect differences?

    It sounds like the permanent wound channel could end up being larger than the diameter of the bullet even when the bullet doesn't yaw. It also sounds like anything I might have read or heard (no specific source) about muscle turned to jelly or lungs liquified by a fmj bullet from a military...
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    Beginner to Rifles, Just got me a Ruger 10/22

    I have had no problems at all with Remington (Thunderbolts or the hollowpoints in the 550 round box), Winchester (Wildcats) or Federal ammo with my 10/22. I have a 25 round magazine for it (Butler Creek maybe, it's plastic). I have found that to be pretty much worthless.
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