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A lot of us have pocket size flashlignhts that can be used to blind and then be used as a bludgeon, to harden the fist, or to cut. In fact there is an entire martial arts developed around using a flashlight as a fghting weapon. So as you see they can be useful. On having one on your gun. If...

The charterarms forum has lots of good info on charter arms.

Quote: I don't care if you take it seriously or find it a bit vague. I have owned one of them and it was a sub-par piece of crap. I have held others and they were crap. If you cannot tell the difference between quality and crap then that is not my problem. I suggest you buy the tried and...

I don't care if you take it seriously or find it a bit vague. I have owned one of them and it was a sub-par piece of crap. I have held others and they were crap. If you cannot tell the difference between quality and crap then that is not my problem. I suggest you buy the tried and proved...

I would never even consider a charter for any kind of self defense.

If your mind is focused on ear protection then you are not ready for self protection.

I think they would be a great idea, they could keep you from hearing your own screams, your wifes screams, and your childrens screams. Of course it didn't have to be that way. If you had taken that one second that it took to put on ear protection and used it to kill the BG he wouldn't have taken...

On a marlin 39aw 3030..

At least half of my actual training for self defense doesn't revolve around a gun. It involves staying alive and getting away from a person who comes out of no where with a knife, bat, etc. In other words you are suddenly on your back after an attack and fighting for your life. For that instance...

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Why don't you write Smith and Wesson and get them to run their facts and figures through a computer that will tell you it depends but it will be written in computereze.

That is a damn good price on the glock I would scoop it up someway. The other people gave good advice on the other part.

For anyone that wants a light and is not ready for a rail light I sugest this one I found at HOme Depot. It is by Husky and has 130 lumens,(that's good). It just says 4 watt tactical flashlight on the plastic. Good, well made, not happy with the switch position but okay.

This guy knows what he is talking about.

I had one it was crap, sent it back 3 times. Finally passed the trash. Anyway if you buy one and it shoots reasonably well then keep it for plinking but no self-defense. Simple

The thing that finally got me to sway to flashlight was when I saw just how powerful they are nowdays. A momentary flash totally blinds the badguy which gives you time to assess or kill. It does not give away where you are because you can move right or left after the flash. I have several...

The best.

If you can accept the 642 for what it was made to do then you will love it. If you want it to be a target gun forget it.

I don't understand why these piss fights over this gun or that for HD. I say we all need to spend more time figuring out the terrain we are going be fighting in/protecting and build around that. Each room will be different, so you need to figure out how to protect it based on many...

Do you have one? Yes How well does it work? Yes Is it worth over $300? Yes Is it worth putting on a gun if your already extremely accurate with it and have a light on it? Yes, that little dot is an edge that might make a badguy run before he decides to get stupid.