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“Natural” skill and your limiting factor to becoming a better shot?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by holdencm9, Nov 7, 2012.


What is your limiting factor

Poll closed Dec 7, 2012.
  1. Time

    52 vote(s)
  2. Money

    40 vote(s)
  3. Motivation

    13 vote(s)
  4. Equipment

    2 vote(s)
  5. Physical Limitations

    30 vote(s)
  6. I can't get any better because I am already perfect

    12 vote(s)
  7. Other or multiple (please explain)

    25 vote(s)
  1. Queen_of_Thunder

    Queen_of_Thunder member

    Jul 28, 2012
    Where God purifies the soul. The West Texas desert
    For me its money and physical limitations. I shoot USPSA but my physical limitations means I will never get far in that sport. ATA has a chair division which is great as thats where I'm headed. That and bench rest are in my future. Thats whats great about the shooting sports as it has a format for shooters from the run and gun type to the sit down and shoot bunch.
  2. 303tom

    303tom member

    Jul 16, 2011
    Well I see their are 7 of us that are perfect..............ROTFLMAO.
  3. blahpony

    blahpony Member

    Sep 14, 2012
    Leesburg VA
    I voted motivation. I shoot 9mm pistols, so ammo isn't too expensive. The range is about a mile from work so time isn't an issue.
    Motivation is my main issue in that I have to get my range bag together and unload my HD pistols in the morning before leaving for work.
    The range is only about 15 minutes from my house. Though, if I get home I generally will want to stay there for a while before doing anything. By then, the range will be closed.
  4. PonyKiller

    PonyKiller Member

    Oct 6, 2011
    Southern New Jersey
    i voted for physicall. in the end that's what it is, time and money are limiting factors.. but i have a bum left shoulder turning quickly into a completely locked up left shoulder. I can't turn my left palm up at all so i'm limited to pulling in on a strap. all things considered i do pretty well with it. i'm hunting accurate, about 2-3" from a sitting position at a hundred. so that's good enough for now till the shoulder gets taken care of.
  5. ColtPythonElite

    ColtPythonElite Senior Member

    Jan 8, 2011
    I have enough time and motivation to shoot 2+ days a week. I also have enough money that I don't have to ration ammo and enough to buy decent equipment. I also am in pretty good shape and have good vision. Being middle aged, I don't think my skills will get any better than they are right now, though...I reckon I have peaked.:D
  6. huntsman

    huntsman Senior Member

    Apr 11, 2003
    ohio's northcoast
    Me too, I can only hope the trip down is long and slow but one never knows so I keep my SXS for when regulated to rocking chair status. :)
  7. WoodchuckAssassin

    WoodchuckAssassin Member

    Apr 5, 2012
    Lynchburg, VA
    Money...with Time being a close second.

    Right now i can only afford 2 range visits a month, and even then I'm only getting out my handguns (the range is indoor, and only 25 yards long). And of course I blow all my ammo when I do go, so that opens up a whole other can of worms!
  8. Hardtarget

    Hardtarget Senior Member

    Dec 21, 2002
    Nashville, Tn.
    I'm in a physical limitations group. As with others its mostly age...vision to be exact. I never was a great shot but as my vision got poorer so did my marksmanship. Handgun is most noticable. It is hard to stay in the "sweet spot" with my glasses. I've found that peep sights help greatly on rifle. I don't have a scoped rifle except for the .22 I keep from my father in law. I rarely shoot it...my grandson likes it very well.

    No doubt, money is a factor along with time. Seems life has gotten faster and days are shorter. Too many things pull on your time to the point of almost no free time. Oh well.

  9. Pete D.

    Pete D. Senior Member

    Sep 13, 2010
    Motivation, sort of. My problem is, as one of my shooting buddies tells me, is that I am interested in too many things. Maybe "focus" is a better term. I like to shoot pistols and do about 30 matches a year. But....I also like Trap shooting and do that once or twice a week when I could be practicing with the pistol. I like smallbore prone match shooting; that has had me turn my attention to HP Service rifle.
    I just bought a new bow - one of the Asian horsebows - and find myself at the archery range instead of at the pistol range.
    Heck, I like anything that shoots.....carry one of a dozen or so slingshots that I have in my pocket when I am outside....and a pocket full of marbles - buy'em by the case.
    and then theres....

  10. beatledog7

    beatledog7 Senior Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    For me, it's time or money. When I have time it's because I'm between contracts and have to be careful about money. When I have money it's because I'm on contract and have less free time.

    Eyesight is an issue for lots of us as we get older. I doubt that equipment limits very many people. It certainly doesn't limit me.
  11. mavracer

    mavracer Senior Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    In the words of Harry Callahan "A man's gotta know his limitations"
    I know in my case time, money and motivation all work together to keep me from finding my physical limitations.
  12. Clipper

    Clipper Senior Member

    Apr 15, 2006
    Mt. Morris, MI.
    The biggest factor for me has been age and somewhat poorer health... I once brought a RBH I hadn't shot in 5 years to a gathering and had no problems potting the end of a 3-lb coffee can standing offhand @ 50 yards. Today my lessened visual accuity won't allow it. Iron sights are slowly giving way to optical sights. Older muscles aren't as steady as they used to be. Heart disease, diabetes and cancer treatment ( though mild and effective ) all take their tolls... I'm just happy to still be able to achieve passable hunting accuracy, but like my dad, there will likely come a day when I'll pretty much have to face such an erosion of skills and ability that even S.D. will be an issue.
  13. zdc1775

    zdc1775 Member

    Feb 26, 2011
    I voted Other or Multiple.
    Time: I work 7-3 and live an hour from work and the range is an hour past that
    Money: Just bought a new house so I'm on a tight budget right now of about $150 a month of discrecionary funds
    Physical Limitations: Bad Knee keeps me from getting into a good tight sitting or kneeling position, bad eyes keep me from seeing the target very well, and bad back keeps me from doing a whole lot of stuff I used to.
  14. rugerman

    rugerman Member

    Aug 7, 2004
    Auburn, Alabama
    I put physical limitations due to my arthritis that now limits my dexterity and hand strength. I used to shoot lots of magnum handgun, now I have trouble with even .357 mag. I still do pretty well with 9mm & 22 and rifles but the 44mag, 41 mag and hot 45 long colt, and even 45 acp hurt after just a few rounds. Getting old is not for sissies.
  15. tobenheim

    tobenheim New Member

    Jul 4, 2012
    Colorado Springs, CO
    I put time as my primary limitation. My wife had a stroke last year at the age of 38 and I am now her primary caregiver. Used to be the money was the major limitation until I got into .22. Now I can shoot quite a bit of ammo without blowing the budget and improve my fundamentals.
  16. Jaxondog

    Jaxondog Member

    Feb 3, 2012
    Culbreth NC
    Well I voted I was perfect and could not get any better because it was the only one that fit. I have plenty of time, [retired], I have the best equipment and money is not a factor. I reload so I have enough to shoot every day til the day I pass away and then some. I guess if anything at all hold's me back, would probably be knowing I have to clean them afterward's. There has been several time's I have gotten all set up to shoot just to say; the heck with it. I don't feel like cleaning them so I put everything back up and go do something else.
  17. holdencm9

    holdencm9 Senior Member

    Oct 25, 2011
    Lol. Well that sounds like "motivation" to me :)

    One thing that surprises me is the amount of "physical limitations" responses. It both saddens and inspires me though. On the one hand, you have to acknowledge your limits and accept challenges you face. I will not take for granted my health, but at the same time, it is great to know that shooting can be a lifelong and very enjoyable hobby regardless of most physical ailments. Thanks everyone!
  18. Dave P.

    Dave P. Member

    Jul 9, 2011
    People are NOT created equal.
    Some people given time, money and motivation will get to be pretty good
    at something.....pretty good.
    At the pointy end of any sport are the very few out of all those who really
    tried, for what ever reason those few are just better.
    And then there's "the one" who at that point in time in their particular
    sport/event are just better than everybody else.
    For most of the population to get to be "pretty good" is a major
    undertaking. I've worked pretty hard at some sports when I was
    younger....never got to the "pretty good" stage.
    I think I lacked talent.
  19. holdencm9

    holdencm9 Senior Member

    Oct 25, 2011
    Dave P, you have touched on an aspect of the discussion I had initially wanted to be involved, but sort of fell by the wayside.

    That is, can anyone barring physical limitations really achieve any level of proficiency they desire, assuming they have all the time, money and motivation in the world?

    My heart says yes but my brain says no. I understand theoretically all it is is sight picture and trigger control, but if it were so simple, I should be better! :banghead: And there has to be a reason the top tiers of competitiveness are so out-of-reach for the average joe. I have no doubt that they work harder to get where they are, but they must also have an inherent natural skill that enables them to gain the motivation to pursue such elite levels. In other words, people don't pursue those avenues unless they realize (or are often told, by a coach or someone) that they are pretty darn good. Meanwhile the rest of us are just content to continuously improve and beat personal records. :)
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2012
  20. Ankeny

    Ankeny Senior Member

    Jun 27, 2003
    Motivation. When I am motivated to accomplish a shooting goal, I will make the time and come up with the money.

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