10/22 for hurricane season defense in my subdivision.... Really

[Isaac-1]

One thing I did not mention in my first message, nothing beats .22 when it comes to cheap and easilly portable ammo, just try putting a 50 round box of anything else in a pants pocket. I did the math the other day, and buy buying mail order it is possible to buy enough fairly good .22LR Hollow Points to shoot one round per day for 40 years for well under $1,000. (about $600 with cheap bulk junk, but with my experience having about a thousand rounds of Remington Thunderbolts that are swollen and will not chamber, I don't think cheap is the way to go here)

 

[oneounceload]

Gonna be pretty difficult explaining why you needed the greater lethal range of a .22 (or any rifle) in a subdivision in a natural disaster situation when a shotgun gives you plenty of power.

Exactly, besides the lethality of a slug at 100 yards is a lot greater than a .22 lr - which should be just fine against a roving band of machete-wielding folks

 

[Lee D]

i know a disabled Vietnam veteran (a great friend) who due to his injury cant shoot much but his 10/22 anymore. i gave the guy a couple 30 rd mags and he was tickled as it gets. his logic, and based on his combat experience i would NEVER doubt was "everyone ducks when lead is flying overhead"....makes sense to me.

 

[scaatylobo]

Shotgun

Get lots of practice with slugs in the shotty's.

Slugs because you are responsible for all shots that you fire and buckshot can be hard to send downrange and KNOW for sure where all pellets will go.

Spend the extra time to REALLY learn the shotgun and all its abilitys and shortcomings [ range ].

btw,I have seen the S&W M-4's selling new for about 600+.

If you really want or believe that is the answer.

I own a few and do like the accurate fire that I can do with them.

But the 12 bore is also a very good option that I still train with.

 

[Aiko492]

You can approach an AR for about $600 if that is what you really want-a pretty nice one at that. As others have mentioned, practicing with slugs is not a bad idea either.

 

[Tim37]

theres been a lot of people die due to a .22

 

[Loosedhorse]

just the sight of any firearm was adequate deterrent for daytime encounters

That being the case, maybe getting ammo is just a waste of money. Personally, I'd want to depend on something more than the sight of a gun...and more than a .22LR. JMHO.

Gonna be pretty difficult explaining why you needed the greater lethal range of a .22 (or any rifle)

I am surprised that so many agree with this statement. First, a .223 has a lot of advantages that a 12 gauge doesn't.

But most important--to whom exactly are we "explaining" our choice of rifle, and why do so many think we have to explain that choice?

 

[GCMkc]

You can approach an AR for about $600 if that is what you really want-a pretty nice one at that. As others have mentioned, practicing with slugs is not a bad idea either.

^This. I think a $600 AR-15 will perform just as well as a $1k AR-15. Plus, if you're in a situation when the SHTF you are not going to worry about how much you spent on your AR-15...

 

[Captains1911]

^This. I think a $600 AR-15 will perform just as well as a $1k AR-15. Plus, if you're in a situation when the SHTF you are not going to worry about how much you spent on your AR-15...

Not until it goes down and you wish you had ponied up $200 more.

This is crap, $800 to $1000 ARs are better than $600 ones. For a range or plinker, a $600 AR is fine, for a defensive rifle, which is what we're discussing here, pay a little more and get a quality one, why skimp?

 

[Hocka Louis]

How do you beat a shotgun in a subdivision for defense? Buckshot is more effective at longer ranges than most people realize, as are slugs, of course. I like the idea of a Polychoke so you can change it on the fly with a twist of the wrist vs. swapping internal tubes. Buy a flat of #1 or #0 Buckshot (skip the #00): thru a modified choke it will be useful well out to 50 meters. Worried a little about overpenetration? #4 Buckshot might be the only other option -- sorry. Even light slugs to much farther. Save the money from the gun and get a Polychoke and some more varied ammo instead.

On a final note: a .22 LR is better than nothing and will make anyone think twice about doing bad things. But it probably won't stop them in the act.

 

[theicemanmpls]

You have 2 shotguns now? Put a rifled slug barrel on the mossy and with current sabot loads they are accurate out to 225 yards with a scope. Not that you would ever need it for home defence!! But good for deer. If you just want a .22lr get a marlin 60 over the ruger. More accurate by far when box stock and new price about the same and would be a more reylable small game getter. Now then the shotguns and a .22 should cover about any problem that comes up. Use a tungston T load for up close to buck shot out to 40 or 50 yards and slugs to 225 or so and a nice 22 for feeding the family.


You really should own a handgun. Something easy to shoot for anyone in the family ,full size 9mm would do well enough. What ever fits the smallest hands in the house that my need it.

I don't know if the OP is that well healed. I am not, plus, IMHO, not necessary to buy the rifled barrels. Those sabot slugs are not cheap. IMO, most deer where I am from are shot well under 100 yards. The tried and true pumpkin ball slugs do the job and are not anywhere near the price of sabots.

The Marlin 60? Is that built by the "new marlin aka Remington"? If so, one might search out a older used one. Rumor has it the new marlin products are not the same quality of the old company.

A shotgun with a longer barrel and chokes can down a variety of game. In fact, with two barrels one for birds, and small game and the other for big game, and goblins, one should do very well.

A pistol that will handle HP 9mm's will do just fine. So will a 38 wheel gun.

 

[Isaac-1]

Personally I am not concerned with they type of gun I might shoot an intruder with, if by chance I was holding my Savage 114 30-06 with a Burris 14x scope on it when someone decided to kick down the back door, there is no way I would consider putting it down to grab a shotgun, etc. (well I might put it down AFTER I grabbed a shotgun if there was time, since it would probably be bad form to shoot through someone's house half a mile away after shooting through the BG.

 

[LANDMAN4389]

People tend to overthink things. A Ruger 10/22 would make a perfect weapon for what you want to use it for.

It will kill just as quickly as a .500 S&W but you will have a hard time explaining that to people.

I'd sooner take a .22 rifle for personal protection or anything else needed than a shotgun with slugs, or an elephant gun. There is a reason you find them in just about every old farm house still in the South. They are cheap, easy to shoot, and will kill if needed.

If you don't believe a .22lr will kill an alligator other than what you see on the History channel then you need to get out more. If you need to head out quickly, would you rather pack a case of ammo or just throw a brick of .22lr in the backpack or truck?

A .22lr will flat out kill and it's relatively quiet.

 

[velojym]

Yeah, the .22 probably accounts for a large number of lives, but the trick here is to do it quickly enough so that the BG stops what he's doing before he can reach you or yours.

I have a 10/22, and there have been a few times when it's the rifle I grabbed to answer the door to a shady looking character, but I'd trust my .44mag levergun more.

 

[Certaindeaf]

The good thing is, tinfoil will be relatively rare when "TSHTF".
You just might stand a chance.

 

[Bovice]

For hurricanes and keeping looters or invaders at bay, a reliable pistol and some go-to magazines are sufficient. You don't need long range capability. Your concern is only your property.

 

[RalphS]

I live in Florida in a sub-division and I went through Andrew as well as a couple other hurricanes. Wilma was the worst for us. My neighborhood was without power for almost 2 weeks (I had a generator). My home defense is a couple of handguns and a couple of shotguns. The rifles stay locked up in the safe.

Where I live, the sub-divisions are densely populated. It would be insane to shoot a rifle around here.

I don't consider a hurricane to be a SHTF scenario. Instead of barricading yourself in your house, go out afterwards and help your neighbors clean up.

 

[BLB68]

What Ralph said.

If you live in the subdivision from hell, then the shotguns should be more than adequate. You'd be better off spending your money on more practical supplies.

 

[oneounceload]

I don't consider a hurricane to be a SHTF scenario. Instead of barricading yourself in your house, go out afterwards and help your neighbors clean up

EXACTLY! +1000

I too live in a subdivision, here we help each other out as much as possible as many are in their 70s and 80s

 

[Hocka Louis]

The good thing is, tinfoil will be relatively rare when "TSHTF".
You just might stand a chance.

This is a falacy. Tin foil is VERY difficult to find NOW and will be unaffordable in an emergency. They started removing it from the shelves in the late 50's. All you can get on the consumer market is aluminum foil which is about as useful as wax paper for a Faraday cage.

 

[theicemanmpls]

This is a falacy. Tin foil is VERY difficult to find NOW and will be unaffordable in an emergency. They started removing it from the shelves in the late 50's. All you can get on the consumer market is aluminum foil which is about as useful as wax paper for a Faraday cage.

One could have a #8 solid with grounding alligator clamp, the other end fitted into a body cavity.

Or,

One could wear a Faraday suit.

Aluminum foil just don't' work anymore.

 

[mjsdwash]

get an exact edge extractor, if you real are serious about a 10.22

 

[Elm Creek Smith]

A 10/22 is a fine little rifle. While a .22 can kill, it can't stop an attacker. A shotgun can take care of stopping attackers, but ranges even with buckshot are limited. A Ruger Mini-14 is a good choice since over-penetration with .223 Rem is limited even at close ranges. My Mini's red dot is zeroed at 25 yards.

ECS

 

[rls303]

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[vtuck2]

Quote:
"I saw a used mini 14 go on an auction the other day for under 500. It had been knocked around a little bit but probably shot as straight as it ever did. I think it had 3 20 round mags with it too. Sounds like what you need."

Over the course of my 62 years I've owned lots of firearms. The two that I've most loathed were a mini-14 and a S&W 639. I jumped for joy and did backward flips the day I got rid of 'em.

But back to the matter at hand... I cannot see a scenario in which a .223 ANYTHING would be a reasonable "subdivision SHTF" weapon. I simply cannot understand ".223" and "subdivision" being used in the same sentence. It's almost like juxtaposing the words "welding" and "gas tanks".

It scares the bejeesus outta me!

Respectfully,

Vernon