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10.5" 458 SOCOM + aluminum slugs = FIREBALL

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Big44mag, Nov 10, 2009.

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  1. Big44mag

    Big44mag Member

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    Not the greatest pics in the world but it will give you an idea.

    Just though I'd share.

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  2. cottonmouth

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    Wow!

    J.B.
     
  3. highorder

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    Load details please?

    Better pic of the muzzle device as well?

    :)
     
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    Those are frames from a video, why not just post the video?

    Intense fireball.
     
  5. 12many

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    Not good.
     
  6. RevolvingGarbage

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    Id be worried about the safety of my eyebrows with that thing erupting in a little lane stall like that.
     
  7. Eightball

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    Hey, you can shoot and BBQ at the same time! What a time saver!
     
  8. nwilliams

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    WOW! I can't imagine any indoor range allowing people to shoot a 458!
     
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    Awesome! Another vote for uploading the video though.
     
  10. Mandolin

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    WHat's the noise like? I imagine it is going to replace the M91/44 as the "very big bang and huge flash" weapon of choice. BTW, what are you doing with .458 in a 10.5 inch barrel?
     
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    Aluminum slugs ?????
     
  12. highorder

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    I'd imagine its built for CQB.

    The .458 SOCOM is meant to put bad guys down for good, using 136 year old ballistics in a 45 year old design. ;)
     
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    Would the bore be subject to "aluminuming" with Al bullets?
     
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    Sweet!
     
  15. Big44mag

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    34gr of Alliant 2400
    Lehigh 100gr CQB slugs
    COL 2.067
    Velocity out of my 16” 458 is around 2850fps but I haven’t used the chronograph on my 10.5” with this load yet.

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    I didn’t have an editor at the time.


    Not as bad as you would think, more bright than anything else.



    Ballistics are on par with a 45/70 so as long as your range can handle that you’d be ok. It was empty, the closest shooter was several bays away and we know each other so he was ok with it.

    It is extremely loud with those slugs, the 405, 300 and 325gr slugs I normally shoot have a good bit of pop but the aluminum ones have an amazing boom to them. Why not a 10.5” 458?, going from a 16" to a 10.5" I only lose about 80fps. That is with 300, 325 and 405gr slugs though, like I said before, I haven't chronographed these yet.


    Yes, aluminum.

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    That is what they are advertized as, Defense / CQB. I couldn’t imagine shooting that in a dark house without hearing protection though. I did some testing on phonebooks and the slug managed to make it into the second book, the only deformation was the aluminum surrounding the hollow cavity snapped off into 3 or 4 separate pieces like petals but the rest of the slug stayed together. Unfortunately I can’t find that slug or I would post pics.

    Not that I know of, they are coated with a film from the factory I assume to keep that from happening.

    Here is the vid, just had to shorten it a bit.

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    what's the advantage with aluminum slugs?
     
  17. Big44mag

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    According to the manufacturer they were designed for high impact low penetration, it works but the side effect is the flash.

    Good or bad I guess is left to the discrepancy of the user.
     
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    Now that's a hollowpoint!
     
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    I suddenly have an intense longing for a device such as this.
     
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    I got hold of that sucker last weekend. All I have to say is WOW! :what:
     
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    wow now i have a reason to recycle all those beer cans lol
     
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